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SignUp Now!Those aren't cheap and after you buy the valves, springs and V/C covers you could get a set of TA heads setup that will work with stock covers.
Those make nice door stops albeit expensive ones.
How do you figure ... valves are about $220 .. NO Way in the world are those M&A 's in BOLT on STATUS gonna be $2K or even close .
Not only that but he would get to spec all valvetrain parts at the same time ..
Add up the valves, springs and the V/C that are M@A specific and while you're at it throw in the labor to have them setup if you don't have the tools to install and check the springs and valves.
Let's even low ball it all. Heads 1,200.00, valves 250.00, springs, seals, locks and retainers, 3/400.00, V/Covers that fit those heads about 2/250.00. Labor to install and check springs and valves 150/200.00. Labor to work heads for said springs depending setup????
Bottom line is two grand or more !!!!! Unless you drop the price on the heads because that's the only way they will come in less than two G's.
For that price he can get a pair of TA SE or SI heads spec'ed out and ready to drop on which are better heads than the M@A heads are and less hassle with money left over to put towards the roller rockers.
There is a reason that people in the know don't want M@A heads. They were a pain in the ass when popular and even less desirable today compared to TA heads.
Nothing personal, but I spoke the truth and if I'm wrong why not spec them out for whoever buys them from you for 16/1,700.00 bucks if they are such a good deal??
I have no beef with you, I'm just pointing out the facts.
I don't need to run them to know what it costs to set them up.
I know how to read and do my research and you can't back up what you say because I know I was fair in the prices I put forth.
I put out ballpark numbers which are legit. The price of new valve covers to fit those heads is up in the air because I don't know who sells them if anyone. Let me know what those cost and the price can be factored in if my guess was to high on that. All other prices are pretty much spot on depending on what area of the country you live in. The prices could vary some but I would say potentially a little lower but also could be much higher.
I'm not making assumptions and you know it. If I'm so far off please post what your cost is to fully set up those heads with the cost of valve covers as you have no choice but to buy a set for those heads as the stock ones won't fit.
Most people don't want the drama of unknown expenses when buying heads and tend to buy them setup and ready to run. If they come messed up or configured wrong they get sent back and fixed for free. That's not an option on the M&A heads.
If you can set them up for less than a TA SE/SI head and warranty them for less than 1,800.00 with valve covers I will buy them from you.
I'll be waiting to hear from you on when these heads will be shipped to me complete and ready to drop on with the specs I provide.
TA bought out M&A years ago and made obvious improvements as their heads are better overall than any M&A head and we both know it.
If they were so great how come nobody wants them at the 1,200.00 price you're selling them for?? Because they might be worth 750.00 on a good day bare that's why.
I wouldn't buy your heads, because I know you couldn't come in at the price you state it would take to set them up. That was the point I was making.
I only come in and call BS when I see it.
If those heads are so great why don't you run them???
I'm not saying they are bad heads, just that they can't be setup correctly for the price you stated.
I'm sorry if the facts don't go your way but I will say GLWS !!
Suggest you guys take the "gunfight" to PM....
I have had a set of M&A heads and currently have a set of TA SE . after you buy the valves ,springs, rockers ,hardwear , valve covers Rob is correct you would be close to 2k if not over 2k . Valves $250,springs,retainers $350 , correct pushrods $120 , rockers $450 machine work $4-500 . You do the math $1500 plus the bare aluminum heads $1200 . I actually just sold my M&A heads for $1500 complete with valve covers .
Okay well please break it down if we are both way off . Full throttle speed has springs and retainers for 350 .