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Re: Re: ???

Originally posted by TransAm
I dont whats with all the :rolleyes: Im not trying argue with or to piss you or anybody off and I dont care about fuel economy boost claims I just want to find out if its possible for this to work under boost if it relies on vacuum to draw walter/alcky. :cool:

I'm not pissed off at you . I get really pissed off at morons like the ones trying to hoodwink honest folks out of thier hard earned bucks with scams like this.
My point, and that of several others, is/was, they are making so many BS statements, that the site should be banned from exsistence.
In conclusion.. Have a great day, and don't buy the system!!
 
I wont.. I just may end up with a DIY kit but I just hate the idea of trusting a water,alky mixture instead of pure race fuel, because if that pump fails under boost Im toast :(
 
This is perfect.. there is also an audible indicator.. one question though.. does sever knock blow the motor instantly or can u catch it?
 
Originally posted by TransAm
I wont.. I just may end up with a DIY kit but I just hate the idea of trusting a water,alky mixture instead of pure race fuel, because if that pump fails under boost Im toast :(

Piano can fall out of the sky as well. And remember when designing your DIY kit that it is only as good as its weakest point.. so plan your electrical, hoses, nozzles, etc with reliability/durability in mind. You get too cheap in your pursuit of doing a system, you'll pay for it sooner or latter. There are kits in the market place that their pumps fail quite frequently and nobody has damaged their motor from it not spraying. Thats why scan tools are a must..like a simple scanmaster.

Alcohol can be better than race gas in some instances..proven.

Do a search under blew up my motor cuase the pump didnt spray.. you wont find any. It would be like a lightning bolt hitting your car going down the track..can it happen ..yes. Will it happen ..no.

Best is not to race the car if worried about parts breaking.

Peace..
 
Originally posted by Razor
Piano can fall out of the sky as well. And remember when designing your DIY kit that it is only as good as its weakest point.. so plan your electrical, hoses, nozzles, etc with reliability/durability in mind. You get too cheap in your pursuit of doing a system, you'll pay for it sooner or latter. There are kits in the market place that their pumps fail quite frequently and nobody has damaged their motor from it not spraying. Thats why scan tools are a must..like a simple scanmaster.

Alcohol can be better than race gas in some instances..proven.

Do a search under blew up my motor cuase the pump didnt spray.. you wont find any. It would be like a lightning bolt hitting your car going down the track..can it happen ..yes. Will it happen ..no.

Best is not to race the car if worried about parts breaking.

Peace..


your comment made no sense, because 1 I dont drive a regal or GN, 2 you also have no idea how much boost I will be running. what internals or even what block,and 3 I should still race my car and still worry, yet prepare for it being damaged. dont you? if you take your own advice then sooner or later you would go sell all your guages. its not like you need them since it doesnt matter of you blow your motor :rolleyes: by the way I fail to see how the odds of a mechanical pump failing while boosting is up there with being struck by lightning :confused:
 
Originally posted by stevemon
Transam,
It isn't like we went to you asking for advice. Maybe you're of the opinion that our motors are dime a dozen? We're all racing collectable cars with an ever diminishing supply of parts not cookie cutter machines with engines available at Walmart.

If hundreds or thousands of us are successfully using alky w/o a known case of major engine damage, maybe you ought to take the opinions of those that have experience in the field. :confused:


but your motors were built for boost. that does make a differnce doesnt it? whats your compression ratio like? Im sure your motor can stand up to detonation more than mine could.
 
Originally posted by TransAm
your comment made no sense, because 1 I dont drive a regal or GN, 2 you also have no idea how much boost I will be running. what internals or even what block,and 3 I should still race my car and still worry, yet prepare for it being damaged. dont you? if you take your own advice then sooner or later you would go sell all your guages. its not like you need them since it doesnt matter of you blow your motor by the way I fail to see how the odds of a mechanical pump failing while boosting is up there with being struck by lightning :rolleyes:

Ya..doesnt make sense cuase you dont run over 500 HP flywheel with alcohol as your assist. Yet.

Maybe this makes sense, since it is clear you are new to this, If the pump starts spinnig and generating pressure..it will not fail during a run. Bad pumps dont start then stop. Unless the electronics that control then via relays/fuses/connections fail under load.

A bad pump will not pump. Early into a run you see knock at a lower speed and lift. That is why there is no reports of damage cuase "my pump failed".

If its making pressure, it will not all of a sudden stop. Almost mechanically impossible. It may reduce its output, but dead stop..highly unlikely.

But your worried about something failing while racing your car, hence why I suggested not to race the car so you would find ZEN and be HAPPY ;) and not worry about hurting parts.

I have heard this same argueement time and time again from those running race gas as the cop out not to try something that has been proven to work.

But what do I know :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Razor
Ya..doesnt make sense cuase you dont run over 500 HP flywheel with alcohol as your assist. Yet.

Maybe this makes sense, since it is clear you are new to this, If the pump starts spinnig and generating pressure..it will not fail during a run. Bad pumps dont start then stop. Unless the electronics that control then via relays/fuses/connections fail under load.

A bad pump will not pump. Early into a run you see knock at a lower speed and lift. That is why there is no reports of damage cuase "my pump failed".

If its making pressure, it will not all of a sudden stop. Almost mechanically impossible. It may reduce its output, but dead stop..highly unlikely.

But your worried about something failing while racing your car, hence why I suggested not to race the car so you would find ZEN and be HAPPY ;) and not worry about hurting parts.

I have heard this same argueement time and time again from those running race gas as the cop out not to try something that has been proven to work.

But what do I know :rolleyes:


see this is all u had to say, Now I understand :)
 
Stevemon, your might be 8.3:1 but mine is more like 9.3:1 with the GN pistons in the TTA:D

As for our engines being built for boost, I suppose since when they were being assembled they knew they would have a turbo on them. If someone is trying to say the entire engine was designed to be boosted, well it was originally designed as a NA carbed engine.

As for the POS that this post was originally about, spend your money on something else and if you don't want a pump involved, get a propane injection system.
 
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