Quick question for police officers.

[Army MP]

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
I also wanted to know why I was surrounded by four cops when the pulled me over for having white windshield washer lights. They had a slight tint of blue sort of like HID headlights. It was just turning dusk and he said the reason he pulled me over was for no headlights and that I had blue washer lights. I said they are not blue they are hyper white (they weren't blue enough to be called blue). Then I asked him why are they illegal because they are not blue, red or green. He said you cant have 4 headlights on your car. I said, you just pulled me over for headlights and now your telling me that my windshield washer lights are headlights, so in short, I DID have my headlights on right? Cop looks dumbfounded. Meanwhile, in this discussion time, 3 other officers in patrol cars pull up. FOUR guys for a light violation. Talk about having nothing to do. Not to mention I see at least two of them hanging out at the local gas city every time I pass. Makes you wonder why it takes them so long to answer a call. General rule of thumb for survival. 1. get a security system in everything you own because cops are useless there. 2. get yourself a gun. The only security is the feeling of security!

Scott

You have lights on your wipers?! What a geek!
Please tell me it's not a GN for christs sake!

 

[Plains Drifter]

Maturity meter falling…violators exposed.
1st warning; fix it ticket.

Patrick

 

[V6UnderPressure]

Originally posted by Army MP
You have lights on your wipers?! What a geek!
Please tell me it's not a GN for christs sake!

why dont you learn how to read the previous posts. I just said they werent on my gn. How did you get in the army if you cant read??? Guess they'll take anyone.

Furthermore, this post really swayed away from the original topic. I wanted to know for sure if recording an officer during a traffic stop is illegal. Thats it. Still haven't got a for sure answer.

Even though the topic did go elsewhere, I think you all misunderstood my point. And I wanted to also point out that others who like to disrespect me or anyone else for whatever they do to their car is either 1. jealous or 2. low self esteem.

In closing, I wanted to use my example as an explanation on how police officers are wasting time and OUR tax dollars. I am 27 years old, not a child, and have no problem standing up to any of you including police officers (because your no higher than me because you have a badge) What I am simply stating, is that I see alot of kids working on cars nowadays instead of looking for alcohol, and buying drugs. They found something else that they can have fun with. Yet you continue to force these kids to pay for their hobby. Where can they turn next? Let them have their fun, I think it helps their creativity, motivation, and future. You can disagree with me all you want, but if you had a choice to catch a kid with neon lights or catch a kid with drugs, which one would you think is a bad kid??? Something to think about. And all you cops who I understand have to enforce laws, you don't have to. You have a choice to pull them over or not. Your captain is not in your back seat, and you don't have quotas anyways right? Nuff said.

Scott

 

[TurboJunky]

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
You should go to jail for even thinking that because they dont have them except on the lower part of the windshield tucked under the hood somewhat.
Scott

No kidding! Gee, I've only owned 4 Turbo Buicks. It's not like people don't put those stupid lights on their hoods even though the factory didn't put'em on. You seemed like that kind of guy. Seems you missed the warning on the package of those silly lights that said "off road use only" or "the use of this product may be illegal in certain jurisdictions". Then again you'd probably blame someone else because you didn't take personal responsibility and read the label.

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
Secondly, what if I did get em at pep boys, what if I did have em on my buick, what if I did have neon lights. I thought it was all about "to each his own". Instead of being a coward and making fun, how about proving a point. You don't have one. Go get some drug dealers and shut up.

Scott

It is "to each his own" and it's "to each his own opinion those things look GHEY!"

Drug dealers...funny you mention that. Going to court on one Wednesday, but since I can't find one daily the serious car guys who avail themselves to LED and/or neon lights get my attention...along with a 2 point ticket. Don't like that law then I suggest you blame the folks who passed it....your state legislature, not the cops.

 

[TurboJunky]

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
Furthermore, this post really swayed away from the original topic. I wanted to know for sure if recording an officer during a traffic stop is illegal. Thats it. Still haven't got a for sure answer.
Scott

Why don't you take some of your own advice. Can't you read my previous posts? I answered your question about recording a traffic stop in great detail.

 

[V6UnderPressure]

Originally posted by TT/A1233
Why don't you take some of your own advice. Can't you read my previous posts? I answered your question about recording a traffic stop in great detail.

Great detail. How about taking your own advice on taking my advice and read your post. You stated it is legal in the U.S. but state laws differ. No, you didn't answer my question of "is it illegal in ILLINOIS". Your just another cop with a smart mouth. (must be the gun, makes ya feel good). Of course, some say illegal etc., check local laws, blah blah blah. I just told you my opinion, and you are not listening correctly. Sure these lights, AND drugs are illegal. Which one would you rather prevent? Rest my case. Hope that clarified that for ya. Bad cop, no donut. You are right about the people that pass these laws, it makes me wonder why laws in one state differ from those of another. Whats the difference, its like that treat states like different planets or something. You can do much more in indiana and then you cross into illinois and they are on your arse. I would also like to hear you comment on the four cops to pull me over for lights thing. Guess its normal for a police officer to avoid something that they have no answer to. Either that, or they know there's a problem and don't want to admit to it.

Scott

 

[V6UnderPressure]

It's so funny how this stuff turns personal. I am proving a point. You HAVE a choice to either look the other way or pursue someone who is breaking a mild equipment law to someone selling drugs. YOU have a choice. Don't tell me you don't because you do.

Scott

 

[TurboJunky]

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
Great detail. How about taking your own advice on taking my advice and read your post. You stated it is legal in the U.S. but state laws differ. No, you didn't answer my question of "is it illegal in ILLINOIS".

Scott

You have NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY while on a traffic stop which is the legal test according to the US Supreme Court. Thus you may record. But just as the disclaimer on the back of your LED state I would suggest you look into your local laws too. They may have something archaic on the books they would try to enforce which would require you to prove their law is in violation of US Supreme Court rulings on privacy. That's why I said what I said.

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
Your just another cop with a smart mouth. (must be the gun, makes ya feel good).

Scott

Smart mouth? How are these nice quotes:

don't want to be a cop because I don't feel like sitting in a car eating donuts and watching myself get fatter year by year.

I would stop all bad crime and you guys would have nothing left to meet your quotas but more traffic violations.

(shows how much you know about cars and style)

Go get some drug dealers and shut up.

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
Of course, some say illegal etc., check local laws, blah blah blah. I just told you my opinion, and you are not listening correctly.

Scott

I am listening correctly. You got stopped for them and are complaining. Then complain more because 3 others came to see the hubbub. Who cares if they didn't have any calls at the time and backed up their partner. Want to know why 3 extras showed, why not ask them.

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
Sure these lights, AND drugs are illegal. Which one would you rather prevent? Rest my case.

Scott

Both are illegal and if you didn't have your improper lights maybe they would have had more free time to look for dopers or drunks. It sounds like you have no idea how much stuff is found (dope, drunks, guns, warrants) on simple traffic stops....like yours. Get over it.

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
Bad cop, no donut.

Scott

Hey, more smart-mouthing....your maturity meter is falling.

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
You are right about the people that pass these laws, it makes me wonder why laws in one state differ from those of another. Whats the difference, its like that treat states like different planets or something. You can do much more in indiana and then you cross into illinois and they are on your arse.

Scott

They differ because that's what our Constitution says.....government 101 sir. Let me quote from memory "those powers not specifically enumerated in this document are left to the STATES or to the people".

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
I would also like to hear you comment on the four cops to pull me over for lights thing. Guess its normal for a police officer to avoid something that they have no answer to. Either that, or they know there's a problem and don't want to admit to it.

Scott

The problem is you but can't reconcile this. We've had upwards of 5 cars at a simple call for various reasons, some of which are;
- We back each other up
- We don't know others are close and stop to lend a hand
- We're curious
- Some days are VERY slow and boring, a call breaks up the monotony
- We're entertained by the lunacy some people do to their cars

I wouldn't attempt to dictate what a stock broker does or how/why he does it. I wouldn't tell a firefighter how to fight a house fire nor would I tell a surgeon how to properly remove an appendix. I wouldn't tell a nurse how to start an IV properly or a carpenter how to build a deck. You picking up what I'm laying down?

Maybe if you rode with the police and/or received some LE training and got THEIR perspective you'd understand. Instead you'd prefer to be an uninformed armchair critic.

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
It's so funny how this stuff turns personal. I am proving a point. You HAVE a choice to either look the other way or pursue someone who is breaking a mild equipment law to someone selling drugs. YOU have a choice. Don't tell me you don't because you do.

Scott

Yes, and if we look the other way on obvious stuff the people who pay your salary can and WILL complain you're not doing your job. We have an obligation to enforce the laws the public is paying us to do. A mild equipment law is a good reason for a stop and further investigation for more serious offenses. If you get a fix-it ticket SO WHAT? Fix it and go about your business...no muss, no fuss.

 

[V6UnderPressure]

Originally posted by TT/A1233
Hey, more smart-mouthing....your maturity meter is falling.

See above, you stole that quote from GSCA164. Word for word. Anyhow you pretty much stated your case and I stated mine. YOU can make the difference because your the cop. I stand by what I say and my opinion stands. Sorry, but I am one of those who isn't afraid to voice what I think regardless of who gets mad. And of course most of you guys did. I really don't care. I asked a question, it got somewhat answered, opinions flew, and some got offended. Im all smiles here. I will always look down on cops however for minor vehicle violations. Sorry my man. Four cops on a routine stop and 5pm? Yes, a waste.

Scott

 

[TurboJunky]

Hey Scott,

I wrote a ticket today in your honor. Blue DRL's (daytime running lamps) and they weren't the "hyper white" ones either.

Can you say D-U-M-B ?

 

[V6UnderPressure]

Glad that makes you proud, keep that crime coming down buddy! You make the world a better place. Now, if I could only find somewhere around here to buy some grass. I took my hyper-whites off so that the cops cant pull me over and look for the grass in my trunk. Man, that was easy!

Scott

 

[TurboJunky]

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
You make the world a better place.
Scott

Thanks! Just doing my part to keep a bit of uniformity amongst motorists, you'd be exempt if you were flying a UFO. One would expect a myriad of colors from alien spacecraft, but not a car.

 

[V6UnderPressure]

Like I said, good job. Another bad guy put in his place. I can't understand why there are robberies and killings still going on. Im not seeing those lights anymore.

Scott

 

[TurboJunky]

Thanks again!!

I wear many different hats. I arrest drug users/dealers (was at court today for one), domestic abusers, bank robbers and in between doing all that write tickets to dummies who put blue lights on their cars.

It's all in a day's work.....

 

[V6UnderPressure]

well lets see, drug use, abusers, robbers, and lighting tickets. That would make you 75% efficient.

 

[TurboJunky]

Ummmm.......................yea.

 

[V6UnderPressure]

 

[gnturboray]

You GO!!! hahahahahahaha!!!!!!

 

[V6UnderPressure]

Just wanted to say I was behind a cop today. Rolled right through a stop sign and then made a right turn on a red light without even flinching. Bet you if I did that, they'd be on my @ss. Let's call them hypocrates for now.

Thank you.

 

[Army MP]

Originally posted by Scott4DMny
Just wanted to say I was behind a cop today. Rolled right through a stop sign and then made a right turn on a red light without even flinching. Bet you if I did that, they'd be on my @ss. Let's call them hypocrates for now.

Thank you.

Sure, why not? You've called us everthing else.