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TS6

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Considering alky for my car, and if I do it will be your kit. I checked out the website. I have an 87 GN, but I am running a 3 bar map because I have a FAST ecm. Do I still need the 3 bar map your kit comes with? I noticed the TTA kit doesn't come with one. Do they have 3 bar stock?

Does the kit come with a new overflow tank for the radiator, or do I have to do that? Thanks!
 
Originally posted by TS6
Considering alky for my car, and if I do it will be your kit. I checked out the website. I have an 87 GN, but I am running a 3 bar map because I have a FAST ecm. Do I still need the 3 bar map your kit comes with? I noticed the TTA kit doesn't come with one. Do they have 3 bar stock?

Does the kit come with a new overflow tank for the radiator, or do I have to do that? Thanks!

If you have a 3 bar, then deduct 70.00 from the kit.

Yes the TTA is the only car from GM that came with a 3 bar sensor stock. Used for the dash guage.

And yes, the kit comes with a separate OVF for the radiator.

BTW, nice sig :D
 
Can you give me a brief over view of what it takes to install it electrically? Running hoses and stuff is no biggie. My main concern is wiring this unit with the FAST, like how it hooks to the MAP sensor and such. Thanks!
 
Very simple. You tap into the center wire on your 3 bar MAP sensor supplied with your FAST. This is where the controller gets its signal from. It has a 100K input impedance so it will be invisible to your FAST setup.

A shielded wire goes from the power distribution box to the pump. One wire goes to IGN1 on your fuse box, one to ground. has a LED for turnon. One of the LED wires goes to a grey wire on the controller, the other to ground. Low alky lite, one goes to power, the other to the low alky sender. And the last wire is the pump reduction input. This one you can get creative with. In other words, applying a ground to this wire limits the output of the system, so while your staging and building boost, the output is limited so spool isnt compromised. Once the wire loses ground, the system reverts back to normal tracking.

Examples,... on my car its wired with the E-brake handle, so as i'm building boost and the e-brake is pulled, the kit is drizzling in very little. As soon as the handle comes down, wosh goes the alky. On a customers car i did with a transbrake, I made a little bracket with a leaf switch that when the shifter went into 1st, it would limit the alky.. as soon as he popped it into 2nd to launch.. woosh goes the alky. Ive done some GN's off the brake pedal via a relay. When you apply the brakes, it makes the relay "click" and apply ground to the wire. Another car was done on his clutch,non-gn, when the clutch was depressed, it would scale down the alky.. Lastly, two weeks ago I did an install whereby the GN had the rocker switches in the ashtray. One of those switches was a momentary switch, when he staged the car he would hold down the switch, as soon as the car launched, lift the switch.. I hope you see some apps.

No pressure switches, no solenoids, wiring should take less than one hour. Actually its the easiest part.

Controller comes preset with a GN using a 3 bar in mind. drop in and go. It will get ya close.

This weekend I took a recently built controller and wired it into my car. I went racing with it at the Buick event, no changes were made to the settings inside the controller. Just to see how close it would be. No better subject than myself. Thats how close it leaves here. I love QC :D
 
Sounds easy enough. How about pump longevity? One concern I have is if I had a pump or other system failure, I would be screwed. I actually had an SMC kit, but never installed it because of these concerns. The car sits alot, will that matter? Will it effect the alcohol to sit? Thanks!
 
The pump comes with a one year warranty, I have never had one go bad in one of my systems.

Its easily repairable or replaceable. The hoses will never go bad, my electronics are potted to protect them corrossion, I have never had a bad controller either. Actually no part of my system has gone bad needing replacement to any of my customers.

Alcohol will evaporate if let sitting, pump can be run dry with no ill effects, what can I say. For under 500, its been 100% reliable so far.

Even the space shuttle has had issues. Nothing can ever be perfect. At least a good thought plan has been employed in developing this system.

HTH
 
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