i'm in the middle of a frame off (i guess)...i want to do things right so i won't have to do it again....i've got the body off the frame up on saw horses...have been chipping away at the rust scale on the floor with roloc disks sandpaper and wire wheel...my next thing to do is to seal paint whatever it.....what are your suggestions por-15?rust encapsullator from eastwood? anything else i should do while its apart? my biggest thing right now is money... i need to know what will work from peoples own use... don't have the money to try different thing right now.... any help would be great... thanks....joel
scaley rust on floors....what do i use ?
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SEM makes a product called Rust Mort. It basically reverses the rust process. All you need to do is knock off the scaly rust and spray rust mort on. Let is set for a couple of days, it will turn rust in to a black almost primer look. Then spray a good sealer primer over it or you can use the por 15, that work well also.
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My $.02...
I use both, RUST BULLET, and POR-15.
W/ the 15, you MUST put on an overcoat, if it is exposed to UV light. I talked to the tech at POR, about using it on new metal. The answer was no.
Rust Bullet seems to be a popular coating, and acts much like POR.
As Bodhi mentioned above, a rust killer can be used, and then a topcoat used.
To kill rust, and prevent corrosion on bare panels, such as new, or blasted items, I use A MUST FOR RUST, from Home Depot. [There are several products under that name. BE SURE to read the labels.] About $8.00/btl.. will do an entire car, if applied right!
I put it on w/ the sprayer that comes in the bottle. Do a THIN mist, then scrub it in w/ a Scotchbrite pad, and let it dry. DO NOT puddle it, as the puddles will not dry, and will mess up sandpaper.
Once I get ready to finish, I wipe w/ prepsol,[wax/grease remover] run the D/A w/ 180 on it, over the area, wipe w/ prepsol, blow it clean, and paint it.
If you choose to, you can knock off all the loose stuff, blow it clean, and put on the POR, ??, etc, and then put the carpet down.
If the work is in the trunk area, I'd seal it w/ the chosen product, such as POR, then shoot the Zolotone,[spatter paint] over that. ZOLOTONE is water based, and MUST be applied over a sealed surface.. That is unless you want to see the rust start creeping thru the finish...
A neat "trik" is to mix about 25% clear in the last coat of ZOLOTONE. It makes it a MUCH more durable finish, with just a hint of gloss.
I use both, RUST BULLET, and POR-15.
W/ the 15, you MUST put on an overcoat, if it is exposed to UV light. I talked to the tech at POR, about using it on new metal. The answer was no.
Rust Bullet seems to be a popular coating, and acts much like POR.
As Bodhi mentioned above, a rust killer can be used, and then a topcoat used.
To kill rust, and prevent corrosion on bare panels, such as new, or blasted items, I use A MUST FOR RUST, from Home Depot. [There are several products under that name. BE SURE to read the labels.] About $8.00/btl.. will do an entire car, if applied right!
I put it on w/ the sprayer that comes in the bottle. Do a THIN mist, then scrub it in w/ a Scotchbrite pad, and let it dry. DO NOT puddle it, as the puddles will not dry, and will mess up sandpaper.
Once I get ready to finish, I wipe w/ prepsol,[wax/grease remover] run the D/A w/ 180 on it, over the area, wipe w/ prepsol, blow it clean, and paint it.
If you choose to, you can knock off all the loose stuff, blow it clean, and put on the POR, ??, etc, and then put the carpet down.
If the work is in the trunk area, I'd seal it w/ the chosen product, such as POR, then shoot the Zolotone,[spatter paint] over that. ZOLOTONE is water based, and MUST be applied over a sealed surface.. That is unless you want to see the rust start creeping thru the finish...
A neat "trik" is to mix about 25% clear in the last coat of ZOLOTONE. It makes it a MUCH more durable finish, with just a hint of gloss.
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You state that you want to do it right? The only right way on heavy rust is to cut it out and replace the metal. If it's surface rust, I like the Eastwood's Anti Rust. Take a picture of what your talking about, so we can see the extent of it. No since spending all the time and money to skimp on this step only to do it again in a few years. I live in Wisconsin, the snow belt, the rust belt, I know rust
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mmm...rust. The Gbody's archillies heel...
Isn't there an RPO code for rust
Isn't there an RPO code for rust
the rust isn't that bad...just alot of scale some spots worse than others....mostly just surface rust not real rot...but the quarters on the car are mint ....i bought this car as a shell cause my car is rotted out quarters floors rockers .....still could be saved, but i don't have the money time or place to do all the bodywork it needs....the car(shell) i got was hit on the drivers side pretty hard think it bent the frame.... the front suspention took the worst of it ...the drivers post is bent slightly but the rest of the shell is in real good shape....the work that it needs is far less and alot easier than what my car needs.i'm taking the frame from my old car and putting it under the new one..... this car won't see snow again, and most likely won't see ran again (if possible)....(i hate new england)........so anyways to end my rambling.... thanks for the advise.....joel
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