Skylines vs. GNs

[Buyota]

Alright, someone on my site is discussing with me that a skyline will walk all over a gn in every aspect. Not stock, modded up. And street legal.

1/4
1/8
skid pad
braking
acceleration
"EVERYTHING" quote

What are your guys views on this? And he is talking about a 89 R32 Skyline GTR...???

 

[Scottie-GNZ]

You are comparing apples and oranges as the GN only has a ghost of a chance in the 1/8 and 1/4-mile. How well it does depends on the mods the cars have. The GN is heavier and the Skyline is "only" 2.5L but can make equal HP and beyond what a 3.8L stockblock can hold. It all depends on the mods and who is driving it.

Like a SII GN, Skylines have been modded into the 7s.

 

[krom]

There was a 300hp Skyline hanging around Phoenix, the only thing it could beat was stock mustangs.

 

[equalizer442]

i aint scared of them, id race one if i ever had a chance. infact i might have a chance at the bop nats in bristol. the guy who owns the skyline from 2f2f owns a ricer performance shop in bristol and with the help of a phone book and a camera im gona go hunting.

 

[nickb]

Bottom line is, the skyline cost tons of money to mod compared to a GN. You give me that kind of money and I could make any car perform that well. For as much as he spends on his rims you could have a nicely modded GN. Skyline's are not cheap, and once you start modding them forget it, you need a small fortune to get it all right. I'd rather have a fleet of modded GN's. I would love to buy a syclone and put the same amount of money into it that he has in his skyline, that would be cool.

 

[wiked87gn]

from personal experience i have raced all, a very highly modded skyline,half way and a stock one, no changes where made to my car, running 22psi and a 18* chip with bfg's drs, the heavy modded one ran best of 10'70's he had a 200 shot of NOS, there was no competition there he walked all over me from a roll and a start ethier way i get beat, now middle modded one i beat by about a car in the 1/4 he would get me out of the hole but i run him down half way and he could not catch up, now the stock one i was more like a massacre, he would still get me out of the hole but not by much then by the 60 foot i would pass him and put about 5 cars at the end, ethier way they are great cars and yes they cost a pile of money to mod but when done right they are very very scary cars.

 

[ACME RACING]

Here's two coming off the line....

http://students.washington.edu/crm2/Racing Videos/Nissan Skyline R33 Drag Race.mpeg


http://students.washington.edu/crm2/Racing Videos/Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 vs Nissan 300ZX.mpg

2nd one modded up..

 

[XxDarkSidexX]

now u can't forget that the skyline is manufactured, tuned, and raced about 1000000% more then the GN's are. In over 3 main countrys that i now of, europe, aust., and asia. But yet that aside a fully modded GN vS a fully modded skyline would all depend on driver. We've got our low 7 sec GN's and there is the skylines low 7's. If i had the money and power i would buy a skyline.

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/index.php

search this forum for more info

 

[Buyota]

Well this 'friend' of mine is going to be stationed over in Japan and is picking up a skyline for 8k US. Then he has to go through all the hassles of paperwork so looking at spending 35k to fully bring it over. He just doesnt like TRs at all, thinks they are the ugliest piles on the face of the earth. He does get a beat down when he says that But then its the ricer era and people want rice cars. Oh well, I guess he has to wait another 2-3yrs before he can bring it over anyways.

There is 3 R32s in the Seattle area. One of them was down at the track on a import night and was pulling down 12.9s and from what I heard it was just exhaust he had on there.

I figure in the long run better off buying a GN and having yourself a fun kick around high 11 street car that cost you what 1/5th of a skyline. And then insurance would be FAR cheaper.

Another factor on my 'friend' is that he thinks drag racing should be heads up. Bracket racing is for little girls with slow cars. Yet I could beat his talon or bike in my supra truck in a bracket race Ricers...what can you do?

 

[Aztlanahauc]

Your"friend" would be better off getting one from Motorex..They import all the skylines here in the US...he can get an R32 starting at $18,000.....and they are already here...would just have to go to Cali to pick it up...


For me...as much as I love my TR...I would pick up a Skyline if I had the means.....Then go roadracing.....

 

[waell]

Well I just spent over a year in Japan working on and racing skylines (mostly R32 GT-R's) and could not wait to get back to the states to get a turbo buick. Which I did...a 86 T-type, and I could not be more happy.

 

[XxDarkSidexX]

f those guys at motorrex......if your not from this area then you wouldn't know. But they rip you off, talk to you as if you dont know anything and they know everything, and their customer service is WACK!!! my friend bought a R33 from them and it was a complete mistake. Waste of time, money, energy and air. But seeing as most of you arn't familiar with "them" then i can see how you would recomend them, lol Big difference between what u see on tv and on the net and real life experience.

But skylines, IF properly maintained, are the sh it.

Ever think on how much an electrical problem would cost you in a skyline?????

 

[ttawd3s]

I've heard that R34 TT AWD skylines only run like 13.8-14.0 in stock forum, but it reponds to mods like a supra. I saw a before and after dyno of a bone stock supra that gained 43whp from a HKS Air intake.

Funny the USDM 99' vr-4 would wax the R34 skyline stock vs stock, but I guess people always want what they generally can't have.

 

[ncgreg231]

Originally posted by Buyota
Alright, someone on my site is discussing with me that a skyline will walk all over a gn in every aspect. Not stock, modded up. And street legal.

1/4
1/8
skid pad
braking
acceleration
"EVERYTHING" quote

What are your guys views on this? And he is talking about a 89 R32 Skyline GTR...???

So what? ANY car can produce phenomenal performance with the right combination of time, money & knowledge. With the skyline, the factory has done most of this and "passed the savings" onto the customer. The point you might bring is $$$. Starting from scratch (including looking for the car) you could do a heck of a lot with a Buick for $18k - even more so with $35k. I don't know the figures, but how much is he planning on spending?

This reminds me of a similar situation I had myself. In my case, it was Buick vs BMW, (some high dollar model). My friend didn't have much of a comeback from my statement of: "well, my car is out in the parking lot, where is yours?"

The skyline is definitely an awesome car though.

 

[Blown&Injected]

It seems that Skylines are way over hyped. I have always heard that they are the superfastest things on the road. After a quick look at a European Skyline site, it seems that the talk is what mods to get 300 hp!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I was hearing that these cars were way beyond that, but if that were true, why the search to mod to DE-TUNE to 300 hp???

It is also kinda weak to make a comparison between a modern high dollar car with factory race parts to a much less expensive 16 year old car.

Since we are talking about modded cars - just take a look at actual track times and what it takes to get those times.

 

[ttawd3s]

Which would you guys take ?
87' GN with 30,000 miles and Stage2 off-center block with the best rods, pistons, and crank. Champ. ported heads, Billet roller cam, turbo, headers, and almost everything else you could have suspention wise and driveline wise.

OR

A bone stock 14sec. skyline...

Seems like a easy choice to me, but that's just me. The skyline is more of a "panity dropper" car than a race car to me.

 

[WICKEDGN]

I dont know man, tough too choose basically what nissan japan did on a skyline was too take a race motor and drop it in too a street daily driven car with wicked curves. Although were not talking stage 2 engines a skyline engine can easily handle 600+ hp on stock block with no sweat and yes it does respond very well with basic mods like the supra although it doesnt quite have the top end a supra has. It would take it on every thing excetp the 1/4 admit it guys a g body wasnt ment for track course although you can with money, with the benefit's of the all wheel drive it will be a tough choice.

It all depends on how much r u willing to spend, a buick would of course be cheaper to mod but after a certain amount of money it will be time for a rebuild know a skyline could easyly hit mid high 11's with the stock turbos and all the basic bolton's like you would do to a buick the only difference is going to be more money once you get to the turbo upgrade and fuel system but by that time youl be pushing 800hp+ and running mid 9's and driving home on the skyline.

That's what a friend here does but he owns a supra witch is only pushing 740hp hes running 9'8s even lower with a 50shot of nos off the hole but has yet to try it, and still gets to go all over town every day if he want's too, recently we went too red rock canyon
for the day and boy was it fun were doing about 80 and he punched it and the whole **** started moving from left to right amazing butt of course it all depends of how much monry you have.

 

[ttawd3s]

AWD is good, but at a certain point it becomes a handicap in the 1/4 mile.

A GN ( or any car with lots of power and RWD ) with slicks can easily even the score with AWD cars, BUT the AWD cars can never lose the weight of the AWD system and the skyline is no exception.

I believe most the 9sec skylines are RWD and have a "race tranny" that isn't made by nissan.

The DSM awd systerm can run into the 8's !!!! But the TC is replaced EVERY time it runs....

 

[Nuffice]

the skylines advanced transmission shifts from awd to rwd and thats a stock nissan part.

I would rather have a stage 2 buick then a stock skyline

there is no way your friend is getting anything here from japan and making it legal the only company that can do it is
motorexx or whatever it is in ny. it costs about 85k to get a stock skyline to be shipped here and made legal.

hmmmm 10k for a good condition grand national build a full race car and then have enough spare change to buy a supra

 

[ttawd3s]

The skylines computer controlled center differ. is sweet and your right it is a nissan parts, but it can't handle 9sec kinda power. so they switch to a jerico or linko ( or what ever ) type race tranny.

You can always swap some vin numbers from a newer 240sx, its not like an insurence company agent is gonna know the difference. Just make sure you make the old 240sx non-exsistent.