Spoke with a old Buick engineer..info on a 24 valve overhead cam v6

[turbo nasty]

Thought it was too cool not to share! Just had the chance to talk with Timbo Whalen and former/ret engineer at GM/Buick and found out that they played around with a overhead cam 24 valve Buick V6. And have a couple of pics. He said the block was a modified variant of a stage 2. Here some of his reply...."On center, shifted deck, even fire", "We entertained a 24v V6 in that time frame, as well. However, the rules structuring was more suited to the stock block cam in block architecture." "The 24V Buick V6 was put into a concept car and never really saw any racing development, though it had potential. There was talk back in the late '80's of developing the Chevrolet LQ1 3.4 DOHC engine for development. In a Lumina Z/34 or Pontiac GP, they would really scream with a 5 speed. The ECU chips could be fittled with and really unleash them. Here's the Buick DOHC in an '85 Buick Wildcat concept-."

 

[dynoman]

I had a Lumina Z34 with a 3.4 dohc motor and I always said it would have been a great motor for turbocharging . It shifted at 7000 rpm but it was an auto , but it was still fun considering what was available at the time .

 

[SS/GN]

I had a Lumina Z34 with a 3.4 dohc motor and I always said it would have been a great motor for turbocharging . It shifted at 7000 rpm but it was an auto , but it was still fun considering what was available at the time .

My wife had one also and for the day it was a blast on the highway! It was just keep on pulling. Very cool post and thanks for the pics.

 

[Rafs-T-Type]

I had a Lumina Z34 with a 3.4 dohc motor and I always said it would have been a great motor for turbocharging . It shifted at 7000 rpm but it was an auto , but it was still fun considering what was available at the time .

You got something against automatics?

 

[fast86gn]

Very cool pics. It would be awesome to have that engine. Could that Concept car with that engine ever end up at B-J ? What would it sell for?

Also has anyone ever searched to see if anyone has built the 3.4 DOHC engine for performance?

 

[Rafs-T-Type]

Some quick google-fu shows that people have enhanced them. There's even some discussion over at Full Throttle's site (http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2868.html), but there's doesn't seem to be a good central site for it like we have. Everythings pretty spread out.

 

[fast86gn]

Some quick google-fu shows that people have enhanced them. There's even some discussion over at Full Throttle's site (http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2868.html), but there's doesn't seem to be a good central site for it like we have. Everythings pretty spread out.

I have a account over there but haven't been there in a few years. Checked it out and not much traffic at all.

 

[SpeedRacerX]

Cool conversation and I love the Wildcat.

The Wildcat shape always reminds me of the '84 Dodge M4S that was in the movie called The Wraith with Charlie Sheen. Anyone remember that? Small, twin turbo, 4-cylinder making 440hp.

Don't mean to thread jack. You just sparked my memory.

 

[greeneyegi]

Cool conversation and I love the Wildcat.

The Wildcat shape always reminds me of the '84 Dodge M4S that was in the movie called The Wraith with Charlie Sheen. Anyone remember that? Small, twin turbo, 4-cylinder making 440hp.

Don't mean to thread jack. You just sparked my memory.

LOVE that movie!

 

[Rafs-T-Type]

Cool conversation and I love the Wildcat.

The Wildcat shape always reminds me of the '84 Dodge M4S that was in the movie called The Wraith with Charlie Sheen. Anyone remember that? Small, twin turbo, 4-cylinder making 440hp.

Don't mean to thread jack. You just sparked my memory.

It seems vaguely familiar. Just read this though - Originally, the M4S—commonly known now as the Turbo Interceptor—was a Dodge supercar concept that put out more than 440 hp, until experts from the likes of Ferrari and Lamborghini were called in. The result was groundbreaking: not only did it have 800 hp from its mid-engined 2.2 liter turbo 4 cylinder, it pioneered a twin turbo setup later adopted by the Porsche 959 and Toyota Supra, among others.

Source - https://www.thrillist.com/cars/char...turbo-intercepter-from-the-wraith-is-for-sale

PS...The movie is on Netflix

 

[turbo nasty]

No love for the 24 valve Buick

 

[fast86gn]

That 24V Buick motor is F-ing awesome! One of these days it will end up being sold at B-J, I would love to be the rich SOB that bought that.

And BTW The Wraith was a awesome movie.

 

[Rafs-T-Type]

And BTW The Wraith was a awesome movie.

Just rewatched it again last night (for the first time in probably 25 years). Kind of rapey. Kind of cheesy. But not too bad for 80's standards.

 

[SpeedRacerX]

Just rewatched it again last night (for the first time in probably 25 years). Kind of rapey. Kind of cheesy. But not too bad for 80's standards.

I'm sure it's not Oscar worthy. LOL. I am going to watch it now. It's been 20+ years easy.

 

[SS/GN]

That 24V Buick motor is F-ing awesome! One of these days it will end up being sold at B-J, I would love to be the rich SOB that bought that.

I hope when stuff like this is sold it goes to a "Richard Clarke" and stays in the Buick community or your self but my fear is the Oil guys are buying this stuff up and we will never see it again.

 

[fast86gn]

It will disappear into someones collection for sure. Of course is that not where it is now?

Maybe GM/Buick should bring it to the Nats to show off. Would love to see it in person.

 

[rag231]

Sorry to be off subject but in the Wraith, the supercharger on the Trans Am was not moving. I has to pause and rewind it. Yes cheesy but if you watched the movie in the 80's, it was futuristic. Back on topic, the what if of a 24V Buick motor would have been incredible. If the resources of R and D were put into that motor like a stage 2, unlimited potential.

 

[SS/GN]

It would have put Buick so far into the future the other manufacturers would still be trying to catch up

 

[buickjeff]

It will disappear into someones collection for sure. Of course is that not where it is now?

Maybe GM/Buick should bring it to the Nats to show off. Would love to see it in person.

It looks like its in GM's heritage museum - could be borrowed from a private collector , but im sure that still belongs to GM
Ill ask around at work and see if anyone knows the background to it

 

[HouseofSpeed]

They clear out the heritage center on occasion.....in '09 they took a ton of cars and displays to B-J Scottsdale.