T63E stall recommendations?

[87gn-newbee]

I know PTE's web site say's min 3200 but I have a 3k stall now and can't get this thing to 60ft worth a crap. ME is lean on spool up, boxed uppers/lowers, ATR bar. Can build about 6-9lbs on slicks but takes to long wich leads to inconsistant launches. I was thinkin of getting my 9/11 restalled to 3400-3500. What do you think.
Car is good on the street with the 3k but the car is mostly track driven.
Dan

 

[86brick]

If it's mostly a track driven car you would probably be better off with a loose converter like a 3500-3800 stall converter cause I know of one guy that has a TA63 with a 9.5" Precision 3800 stall LU converter and he has no problem getting the car to 60'....... JMO

 

[azgn]

3600 will work better

 

[87gn-newbee]

How would 3600 be with limited street driving and trips to BG and Bristol?

 

[Louie L.]

Originally posted by 87gn-newbee
How would 3600 be with limited street driving and trips to BG and Bristol?

No it shouldnt cause it will be locked up on the highway .

I run a 3800 9-11 converter with my LTE 45. That sucker spools fast. On the T brake ive never had better spoolup. In comparison my PI 9.5 "o" 3200-3500 pump was a dog with my combo.

 

[Chris McDade]

It's hard to find a happy-medium for the street and the track. I run a ta66 q trim with a 3400 stall n/l and it's to tight. I can still 60ft the car in the low 1.5's. But I want better. The car is good on the street with this stall. If I loosen it up to 3800 ( which I will ) it will 60ft alot better, but the street driving won't be as good. It's going to make the converter and the car run hotter on the street.

Just my 2 cent worth

Good luck

 

[86brick]

What are your best 60' times so far? A looser converter with about 3600-3800 stall should definately help, but if you really want great 60' times you might want to consider a trans-brake or some suspension and brake mods to help you hold more boost off the line or try launching off the E-brake! From talking to guys on this forum it seems that if you can launch with about 15-20lbs of boost you should have no problem getting 1.4x 60' times which will get those ETs down cause if I remember correct a tenth picked up in the 60' time = a tenth and a half in the ET. BTW, I hope you run the car with a "real" pair of slicks cause if you are trying to get great 60' times with DRs like Nittos I can tell you it won't happen Good luck

Later, Steve

 

[strikeeagle]

There's no doubt high boost launches will improve ET, but they also tear up your car. I'd rather put a few more parts in to achieve a particular ET than beat the bottom end of the motor up or tear the roof off...

 

[azgn]

don't necessarily agree that high boost launches tear up anything more or less than any other mod....in fact, you can get by with less HP with a high boost launch than not......transmissions are cheap by comparison to a built motor...and if you do it right the first time, you won't break or stress much of anything expensive (this assumes a trans brake, built trans, built rear end)

the cheapest route to improving your et is a hard launch

just my opinion

 

[strikeeagle]

Woody,

I was referring to the shock the driveline and body are forced to absorb with 20 PSI launches.

 

[azgn]

hey, I'll bet my roof pillars are prettier than your roof pillars!

racing is hard on a car in any form, and anybody that doesn't think so should take up checkers.....

I understand where you are coming from, but if you build the car to take it (roll bar, bushings, new everything in the suspension, you really won't hurt anything) well, not anymore than making 700 hp

 

[strikeeagle]

 

[87gn-newbee]

I've got low 1.7's on Hoosiers, allready have HR boxed lowers and uppers and ATR rear bar, S-10 cylinders. I was thinking about the bat Brake but going to try a 3600k stall first I guess. I'm pulling Thursday so I'll let ya know in a few weeks when I get it back in.

 

[86brick]

I agree with what Woody said. Racing is hard on any car and if you're going to launch a car and try to get those killer 60' times you should build the car to take it. If you don't want to hurt your car I suggest you don't race it or drive it, just let it sit in the garage and look at it........

 

[Joe Tiano]

i have a T63e on mygn...with an "real" art carr 9" 16930 32-3500 stall..actionfab 15 row strech...with 28x10.5-15 m/t sliks..a 13 psi launch with the foot brake..my best 60' so far is 1.58..t-top car old combo...without the roll bar....i havent "broken " any hard parts yet joe

 

[Whitettype86]

What stall would u need if u got a 4.1 with a Te63E? I was thinking 3400 stall. What do u guys think?

 

[HRpartsNstuff]

A looser converter will help, but not sure it is the root of your problem. I had both a 3000/3200 stall and a 4000 stall 9.5" vigelante's, with a LT-63 turbo. I believe the LT flows about 75-100 cfm more (because of the large 70 series compressor hsg) than the 63E, which in theory should slow spoolup. I had no problem spooling with either converter, and got 1.40-1.44 60 ft's with both of them (at 10.7's). I didn't like the way the 4000 stall seemed to just rpm the whole run, so I got a 3000/3200 stall. I LOVED it & would never go back! Didn't really lose anything off the line, & it drove so much better, and probably kept the temps down too. Just more food for thought. I would look into the chip/timing/fuel curves/tps/etc... a little more before you swap. One quick test is to lean the pressure out a few psi & do some launches ONLY! It will be way too lean in 2nd gear at WOT to stay in it. This will let you know if the fuel curve or something is out of whack. I tried a front mount too, and didn't like the slower spoolup & higher temps. Went right back to the CAS V-4 stk locn, LOVED it. Hope that helps! I was thinking possibly suspension related, but it sounds like stall is the issue here. If you get it to stall one way or the other & your 60's still are not good, then I can probably help you some more.
The low 1.4's feel REEEEAAAALL GOOOOOOOOD!!!! Have fun!

 

[strikeeagle]

Keeping launch boost down to a dull roar is a reasonable compromise to make with a TR. If I wanted huge launches I'd go get some POS Camaro and tear IT up. After all, there are billions of them, and they're easily replaced. Not so with a TR...

The beauty of a TR (IMO) is not that it can be converted into an all out strip warrior - that can be done with ANY car. It's that it's fast and luxurious and can be made faster while easily retaining its streetabilty.

Just some food for thought...