Tin Man Cold-air **wow**

Axl

SITH LORD
I just converted from ATR cold air to a TIN MAN cold air and all i have to say is that this thing should come with a WARNING label that says ****IF ERECTION LASTS FOR MORE THAN 4 HOURS CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN****

MY turbo SCREAMS now and the SHUDDER/QUEEF is unbelievable when I let off the gas. I can actually hear the air (LOUD AS HELL) being sucked in through the filter at partial throttle 6-10psi. And thats with a little TA-49
 
linky no worky

buickbert

nevermind, i got it to work, $184 dollars, what kind of power increase are we talking? not just more noise, my car already does (well did b4 i spun bearings) that.

buickbert
 
ANDYS87 said:
You actually like that Queef sound??? I think it is very annoying. Sounds like a horse sneezing.

I like to think of it as the GN inhaling/exhaling like VADER rather than a horse sneezing :D


just copy and paste the link and it will work. The system is alot like the Big Mouth kit.
 
buickbert said:
linky no worky

buickbert

nevermind, i got it to work, $184 dollars, what kind of power increase are we talking? not just more noise, my car already does (well did b4 i spun bearings) that.

buickbert

Before I installed the Tin Man I G-TECHED my car @ 4.87 0-60 w/no wheel spin launching at low boost 1-2psi. After I installed I ran 4.52 w/no wheel spin 1-2psi but these were on different days with different temps which is why I didn't post this before b/c I knew that the conditions factor would come up.

But regardless my car is noticebly faster/stronger with the TIN MAN opposed to the ATR unit.
 
Axl said:
I like to think of it as the GN inhaling/exhaling like VADER rather than a horse sneezing :D


just copy and paste the link and it will work. The system is alot like the Big Mouth kit.

Fixed your link :)
 
How does this install? I don't really like the Big Mouth, too much restriction sticking a rubber elbow through the core support IMO.
 
Antagon said:
How does this install? I don't really like the Big Mouth, too much restriction sticking a rubber elbow through the core support IMO.
Take your pick. Suck alot of underhood preheated hot air, or slightly less much cooler air. I'll take the cooler air any day. Remember you want more mass not volume. ;)
 
northern87gn said:
Take your pick. Suck alot of underhood preheated hot air, or slightly less much cooler air. I'll take the cooler air any day. Remember you want more mass not volume. ;)

Guess I need to solve both problems. I was thinking of cutting a hole in the inner fender where the charcoal can goes, and routing it through there.
 
Antagon said:
How does this install? I don't really like the Big Mouth, too much restriction sticking a rubber elbow through the core support IMO.

What is restricted on the big mouth? I don't think you know what you're taking about. This is identical to the Big Mouth. The TinMan design before was drier hose :confused: BTW, Mark and the DIY'ers have been using this design for 6 years or better now
 
Remember you want more mass not volume
Exactly! Lot's of people forget this, and do all kinds of things to increase volume, or to potentially increase volume. The HP increase from the cold air kit can be guesstimated by using the dyno correction factor.
Horsepower correction
This thing is easy to use, and lets you do both pressure and temp. For 120 degree intake air, it gives a correction of almost 2%, so that gives you an idea of the size increase. I think the "standard" is about 75 degrees, but I'm not sure.
 
I have the same 'sound effect' with a K&N 9" air filter, its really loud and you can hear the air getting sucked in...thinking about swapping from a shorty air filter to a cold air kit
 
84GNwith87eng said:
I have the same 'sound effect' with a K&N 9" air filter, its really loud and you can hear the air getting sucked in...thinking about swapping from a shorty air filter to a cold air kit

YOU DEFINITELY SHOULD CHANGE TO A COLD AIR, EVER DRIVE AROUND FOR ABOUT 10-15 MIN, GET ON IT MAYBE ONCE, STOP SOMEWHERE AND THEN OPEN YOUR HOOD. WORSE THEN A SAUNA RIGHT, WELL THATS WHAT YOU ARE FEEDING YOUR ENGINE HOT, THIN AIR.
 
yea, I really should switch. I've got the fuel vapor canister laying on its side and the air filter on top of it. hmmm...maybe I'll just get a U-bent piece of plastic and try it, maybe I'll get a lil extra power :redface:
 
DonnieShort said:
What is restricted on the big mouth? I don't think you know what you're taking about. This is identical to the Big Mouth. The TinMan design before was drier hose :confused: BTW, Mark and the DIY'ers have been using this design for 6 years or better now

Thank you for your support. :)

The rubber elbow going thru the radiator support will bump up against the headlight bucket and dimple it just a bit but if it is causing a major restriction he needs to just move the elbow over.

I've sold more than 500 of these so I must be doing something right. We are the only ones offering a complete setup from the turbo to the air filter if you also buy one of our MAF or inlet pipes. BTW, our plain aluminum BIG MOUTH kits are $150. :D
 
Axl,

Thanks for your positive feedback on the"TINMAN" Cold-air kit! Are you sure you didn't pop a "Viagra" before installing your kit?...... actually,your results are quite typical . Glad to hear you are happy with our product.
We manufacture the "TINMAN" Cold-air kits to be the best possible fit, quality and performance available, bar none. They have been designed and tested to outflow any other 4" kit on the market for the Turbo Buicks. The "TINMAN" Cold-air kit should be the last intake kit you'll need until your Buick is running into the 8's.
Rodman99999, you can see or order a "TINMAN" Cold-air intake by clicking here: www.modelman5.com/tinmancoldairkit.htm By the way, the price is now $189.00 . Haven't updated the website yet. :eek: Sorry.But remember, you get what you pay for ,and component costs have been constantly rising lately.

Antagon, the "TINMAN" kit doesn't use a rubber elbow like the big mouth kit. It uses 4" mandrel bent elbows that will fit without drilling holes or cutting the radiator support opening.. And it will allow you to keep your fuel vapor cannister in it's stock location too. It also includes a better filter than most other kits are using.

And DonnieShort, just for the record, the' TINMAN kit was designed back in the early 1990's. At the time, kits were custom made to order, and we didn't advertise them. In 1999 , the TINMAN Cold air intake kit was advertised on the web by myself, and my dealers. Just weeks later it was "copied" and others were advertising their kits as "TINMAN" copies. That includes the big mouth kit which used a similar approach to bringing in cool air, BUT IS NOT identical to the "TINMAN" kit. If you need more info, call me or E mail me.#'s are on my website. ..There IS a difference....And BTW , the TINMAN kit NEVER, I repeat, NEVER used flex or dryer hose. Always mandrel formed, rigid elbows.
The TINMAN Cold-air kits are made and marketed directly by "Tinman Performance Products Co.( a division of Tylko Metal Fab) in Sterling Heights, MI. Also available thru it's dealers across the country. WE also are now producing 3", 3 1/2" and 4" MAF pipes to work with or without the TINMAN kits going to the turbo, with any MAF sensor or without MAF.
OK I feel better now. ;)

Axl, Thanks again, glad you liked the kit. Thanks for sharing your results and input on the TINMAN Cold-air kit !!!


Al.......aka The "Tinman"

87' GN ,factory stock longblock, TA-49 turbo, 10.93 sec. @ 123.8 mph
 
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