What turbo size..(Searched and no luck)

[XLR8]

Originally posted by marleyskater420
maybe a scanmaster.

Is there anything else you can recommend for about 300$ or less that will actually give me a gain in hp?

Definatly a ScanMaster.

A scanmaster will increase horsepower by letting you tune the car. For example, one night that I went to the track my first run was a 12.8. The ScanMaster indicated that I was a little lean. I added some fuel and ran a 12.5. The ScanMaster indicated that I had no knock, so I increased boost and ran a 12.4. The ScanMaster indicated I was a little lean, so I added fule and ran a 12.3. Because of the ScanMaster I was able to tune 1/2 second in the 1/4 mile - that is at least 50 HP!

If you don't get the ScanMaster (or another scan tool) you may want to order some head gaskets because you'll need them with high boost and no engine monitoring capabilities. You may also want to start serching for a crank shaft to replace the one you drive over. I don't mean to be a jerk but you need a scan tool if you are going to run higher than stock boost and race the car.

 

[Danster]

Being that you will eventually upgrade turbo's in the future, go for 50 or 60 pound injectors and be done with it. If your going to buy the TE-44 make sure you purchase the smaller housing unless you get a conveter to help on spooling.

Here's my recommendation's. If the car is stock replace the fuel pump and hot wire kit for the fuel pump. Buy a scanmaster and chip. Drive the car for a few month's and make sure the car is in a good state of tune before modding the car. You may be surprise the car may have some issue(s) that will require attention before the modding process begins.

This will at least let you know that once you start to mod the car and you are having issues, it will be related to the part you added, knowing your car was running good prior.

I think you will find a lot of folks like to throw tons of mods on their car all at once and wonder why they can't run quicker than XX.XX while someone who has much less is running quicker.

Another words, take it slow and I think you will be happpier in the end.

Dannyo

 

[Danster]

I also wanted to point out a few other questions you might want to ask yourself.

How well did the previous owner take care of the car? Were any mods done to the car? Have you gone through the spring cleaning recommendation found at www.gnttype.org? Besides the motor how well is your Tranny? Don't be surprise with the added mods the tranny suddenly craps out. What about body bushings, springs, shocks, front end, motor mounts? You will want to add a drive shaft loop. Need to add a boost, oil, water pressure gauges. What about the radiator?

If you haven't looked at any of these don't be surprise what you may find after all the car is 17 years old. These parts wear out and will eventually require attention.

I'll get off my soap box.

Good luck with your decisions!

Dannyo

 

[marleyskater420]

Originally posted by Danster
Being that you will eventually upgrade turbo's in the future, go for 50 or 60 pound injectors and be done with it. If your going to buy the TE-44 make sure you purchase the smaller housing unless you get a conveter to help on spooling.

Here's my recommendation's. If the car is stock replace the fuel pump and hot wire kit for the fuel pump. Buy a scanmaster and chip. Drive the car for a few month's and make sure the car is in a good state of tune before modding the car. You may be surprise the car may have some issue(s) that will require attention before the modding process begins.

This will at least let you know that once you start to mod the car and you are having issues, it will be related to the part you added, knowing your car was running good prior.

I think you will find a lot of folks like to throw tons of mods on their car all at once and wonder why they can't run quicker than XX.XX while someone who has much less is running quicker.

Another words, take it slow and I think you will be happpier in the end.

Dannyo

I think I am just going to stick with the 44c, so the 009's will be fine for me for now, until I feel the need to upgrade later.OR should I upgrade to 50's and holdoff on getting the intercooler neck for a week or so?

I understand all of what you are saying, and I think a scanmaster will be what I buy with the leftover TC money.Is the directscan at aggressiveauto.com the same as a scanmaster?

I plan on buying my latest reversion of what I said, and first installing everything BUT the turbo, so that I can get it all working right, and make sure my engine isn't going to blow once I put it one there. Once I do that I will then put on the turbo, and tune tune tune! as they say, that is.

One problem with tuning...I dont know how or what to do to tune, so when I get a scanmaster, can someone show me the basics?

Oh, the tranny has been rebuilt, so I dont have to worry about that.

But I might need to worry about something..I was driving my car along today on a semi-steep uphill,and then all of a sudden,the car just shut off.. I accidently put it in park at about 15 or so,then realized what I did,and jammed it back into OD. But I put it in park once at a full stop, and then started it back up,and it was fine....any ideas?

 

[V6POWER]

Get the 50# injectors and then get the Dutweiller neck later. You only want to buy parts once so start off as large as you can. The 50# injectors work well with my TA-49; just have to get a good chip that compliments the injectors.

How can you accidentily put the car in Park while driving at 15 mph?

 

[marleyskater420]

Originally posted by Look Quick
Get the 50# injectors and then get the Dutweiller neck later. You only want to buy parts once so start off as large as you can. The 50# injectors work well with my TA-49; just have to get a good chip that compliments the injectors.

How can you accidentily put the car in Park while driving at 15 mph?

First off, what chip would work well? I can only really use the 93 chip.

Accidently...more kinda like I thought I wasnt moving... so it WAS an accident..but sorta not really..

Any ideas?

 

[V6POWER]

Eric Marshall of Turbotweak has good chips. (eric@turbotweak.com); phone: 618-548-5953

 

[GNBUICK87]

Originally posted by Look Quick
Check here: http://www.aggressiveauto.com/

They have everything on your list, except the Duttweiler neck, for $1158.

I just Bought a 1987 Grand National was wanting to know what is the differance between my stock turbo and a TA-49 want to upgrade my turbo and injectors and fuel pump also car turns off at the light if i don`t have my foot on the gas

 

[V6POWER]

Look here for turbo comparisons: http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/pictureguides/turboguide/turbos.html

 

[GNBUICK87]

Originally posted by Look Quick
Look here for turbo comparisons: http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/pictureguides/turboguide/turbos.html

Dutweiller neck what is this what is a scanmaster do i need one what do i have to do for a mid eleven second car
just buoght the car last weak was working on it come to find out car had a intake leak so i will be replacing the injectories since the ARE the og ones yhat came in the car

 

[just a nuder 6]

keep savin

speed cost money how do fast do you want to go
my advice be patient and keep savin your money
do your homework and set the car up to run faster than you want that way you can run those numbers safley and not worry about running the car on the ragged edge all the time.

 

[GNBUICK87]

Re: keep savin

Originally posted by just a nuder 6
speed cost money how do fast do you want to go
my advice be patient and keep savin your money
do your homework and set the car up to run faster than you want that way you can run those numbers safley and not worry about running the car on the ragged edge all the time.

Well here is my list of parts i need TA-60 turbo and terry hustom 3 inch down pipe K^N Filter 42.5 lb bosch injectors red arm strong xp fuel pump scanmaster 2 RJC AD Power Plate
Duttweiler intercooler neck mass air flow pipe
adjustable fuel regulator is that a good combo i hope mid elevans is what i am looking for

 

[just a nuder 6]

yeahm but

yeah but dont forget the alky kit and just suggestion but if i where you i ouwld run 50 pound injectors and cycle them down i personaly dont like the injectors to be running 100% duty cycle all the time. but like i said just a suggestion

 

[GNBUICK87]

Re: yeahm but

Originally posted by just a nuder 6
yeah but dont forget the alky kit and just suggestion but if i where you i ouwld run 50 pound injectors and cycle them down i personaly dont like the injectors to be running 100% duty cycle all the time. but like i said just a suggestion

what do you mean alky i just got the car i have been onto VW for about 11 years my two bugs run high elevans

 

[87gninpa]

Youre looking to do all of this with stock exhaust???? have fun with that, its like pushing a basketball through a straw. and a scantool should never be bought "when you have some extra cash" it should be the first thing you buy when the car is stock so you know how it behaves through all of the mods you do so you know you wont blow a HG or worse a motor......also if you're looking for driveability dont go with 009's they have one of the worst spray patterns out there, they will most likely cause ur car to run like crap, get the 50s and be done with it, trust me they are great drving injectors as well as racing. and one more thing, dont just go adding octane booster when you have knock, figure out where its coming from and why and fix it, dont just hide it, your'e only kiding yourself. even if you dont have a scantool you should have aknock guage at least because you wont hear the knock when it shappening until its too late, trust me. im not trying to be a **** or anything, im just trying to warn you, these arent your run of the mill 5.slows that can take a good beating. it takes a lot of time and care to keep these cars running well and safely. take your time and worry more about the welfare of your car than beating your freinds mustang. Mustangs are for fags anyways.......

 

[GNBUICK87]

Originally posted by 87gninpa
Youre looking to do all of this with stock exhaust???? have fun with that, its like pushing a basketball through a straw. and a scantool should never be bought "when you have some extra cash" it should be the first thing you buy when the car is stock so you know how it behaves through all of the mods you do so you know you wont blow a HG or worse a motor......also if you're looking for driveability dont go with 009's they have one of the worst spray patterns out there, they will most likely cause ur car to run like crap, get the 50s and be done with it, trust me they are great drving injectors as well as racing. and one more thing, dont just go adding octane booster when you have knock, figure out where its coming from and why and fix it, dont just hide it, your'e only kiding yourself. even if you dont have a scantool you should have aknock guage at least because you wont hear the knock when it shappening until its too late, trust me. im not trying to be a **** or anything, im just trying to warn you, these arent your run of the mill 5.slows that can take a good beating. it takes a lot of time and care to keep these cars running well and safely. take your time and worry more about the welfare of your car than beating your freinds mustang. Mustangs are for fags anyways.......

WHAT IS BETTER 42.LBS OR50 LBS WITH A TA-60 TURBO

 

[87gninpa]

The 42.5's would be fine, its just the spray pattern makes them not so pleasant at idle and in normal drving situations. i had them on my car with my t61 and they were fine, but i noticed a huge improvement at idle and in drving when i went with the MSD 50's. if you have the cash definately go with the 50's, they're a great injector

 

[murphster]

If you don't get a scan tool now, I'd at least get a knock gauge ($70 or so). I don't think I would do anything before getting one or the other. Any money you could have possible saved could possible be long gone and plus some.

Also, I didn't see that you mentioned an aftermarket boost gauge ($45 or so). Do you already have one? The stock digital one is useless.

The other gauge I would recommend is a water temp gauge ($50 or so). High temps kill performance so you should be aware of it at all times.

You can get a triple gauge holder for the A pillar ($45 or so) and then you are all set. As far as the other stuff, if it were me I'd be looking at upgrading the exhaust and downpipe plus sticky tires first. To save money you can get a cheaper 3" downpipe with a ported stock elbow. The Hooker exhaust isn't too expensive compared to others like the ATR. If there were money left over I'd get the 50# MSD injectors and a chip for them. If not enough money left over I'd still get a good chip.

With this combo you could get into the lower 12's on a stock turbo. If you can't, then you'll have to replace what needs replacing in order to do so. By the time you do that, then when you upgrade the turbo and convertor you should be able to get into the mid 11's or lower. I think it makes much more sense to have a fast running stock turbo car rather than a slow running large turbo car.

I understand that you want a large turbo and to start going fast right away. But you have to learn how to tune with a scan tool or similar before that will happen.

 

[87gninpa]

murphsters right on in saying a good running stock turbo car is much much mich better than having a highly modded car that wont run like you want it to. people used to think iw as nuts when i said i ran 12.4's with a fuel system, alky, tires, exhaust, dp, and scantool. if you tune your car right, you will be a lot faster than you think.

 

[fast eddie]

87gninpa

thanks for the paper weight,one of the pins are missing on the module.
Ed