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SPOOLN

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Hello Fellow Members,
I am having problems with the tranny in my Chevy 1999 Tahoe. Was driving it and the engine rpms start to climb to about 2500 rpm. Its like the tranny is slipping, regular maintance has been done on it like filter and fluid change. I can turn the engine off for a few minutes drive it for about a mile and will shift through the gears fine, then it starts slipping again. The fluid level also seems higher on the dip stick. Could a bad tranny ECM cause this, the battery went dead while driving it to. I replaced it with a new battery and it still does the same thing. There is a tow package on this tahoe as well. I am glad i wasn't towing the GN.. Tranny should last more then 100K of towing a car trailer twice????:confused:
thanks
 
1997 - 2001 4L60E's had a defect in the valve body. The TCC solenoid rode in an aluminum valve body and the solenoid wore the bore. After time it would start leaking around the TCC solenoid. If it's suffering from this it will have a hard 1-2 shift may also display code P1870. The condition has to perisist across 2 ignition cycles to light the MIL.

See

TSB # 01-07-30-023A
Harsh 1-2 Upshift, SES, MIL, or CEL Illuminated, DTC P1870 Set (Replace Valve Body)
1996 Buick Roadmaster
1996 Cadillac Fleetwood
1999-2000 Cadillac Escalade
1996-2000 Chevrolet Camaro, Corvette
1996-2000 Pontiac Firebird
1996-2000 Chevrolet and GMC Light Duty Truck Models
1996-2000 Oldsmobile Bravada
with 4L60-E Automatic Transmission (RPO M30)
Built Prior to January 15, 1999 (Julian Date 9015)
This bulletin is being revised to update the Parts Information.

Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 01-07-30-023 (Section 07 -- Transmission/Transaxle).
Condition
Some customers may comment on a harsh 1-2 upshift and the Check Engine Light or Service Engine Soon indicator is illuminated.
Diagnosis
Typically, these vehicles will have been driven more than 32,000 km (20,000 mi) before this condition occurs.
The scan tool may show a DTC P1870 set as a history code.
A harsh 1-2 shift or DTC P1870, caused by wear in the control valve body, may be difficult to duplicate when the transmission temperature is below 93°C (200°F).
Cause
The condition may be due to wear in the control valve body. This wear occurs in the bore that contains the TCC isolator and regulator valves, and results in poor, or no, TCC apply.

Important
DTC P1870 is a type B code. The conditions for setting the P1870 DTC must occur on TWO CONSECUTIVE TRIPS (ignition cycles, with a drive cycle) before setting a P1870 history code.
When the conditions for setting DTC P1870 are met (first trip), the PCM commands maximum line pressure and harsh 1-2 shifts are the result.
This may result in a harsh 1-2 shift with no history code if the conditions for setting the DTC required for the second trip are not met, on two consecutive trips (Ignition cycles, with a drive cycle).

When the conditions for setting the DTC are met, on the second consecutive trip, a DTC P1870 is stored as a history code.
When the P1870 code is stored, the PCM will turn on the Service Engine Soon (SES), Check Engine Light (CEL), or Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL).
Correction
Install a control valve body with the revised TCC regulator and isolator valves. These valves are used in all transmissions produced after January 15, 1999 (Julian Date 9015), and all of the service parts currently available through GMSPO contain revised TCC regulator and isolator valves.

Important
If all of the following conditions are true, it is not necessary to rebuild the transmission or to replace additional transmission components beyond the control valve body.

Transmission operation is normal before the transmission reaches operating temperature, or before DTC P1870 is set (no slips, flares, or missing gears).
The torque converter is not blue or overheated.
The transmission fluid is not burned or has no burned odor.
The transmission fluid pan contains no abnormal debris (clutch material, bronze, brass, or metal fragments
 
Sounds Like Something Broke Up And Is Clogging The Filter.shutting It Off Allows The Clog To Fall Back Into The Pan Only To Be Sucked Up Again When The Pump Starts Sucking Again.any Trouble Codes Or Check Engine Lite?Does it shift?Does it start off in first gear?Does it whine when it is acting up?what exactly is the mal;function?
 
I want to thank you all for responding. I pulled the pan tonite and found fine brass metal, yes the filter was sucking it up and clogging it. I found 6 small roller/torrington type looking bearings in the bottom of the pan. They were about the size of a ball point pen head. Tranny was not making any loud noise though. It will have to come out. So what are my best options at this time? And what will this cost to replace? What are the weak points to this 460LE tranny. If i get it rebuilt i want it to hold up for towing the GN/trailer.
Thanks
 
I want to thank you all for responding. I pulled the pan tonite and found fine brass metal, yes the filter was sucking it up and clogging it. I found 6 small roller/torrington type looking bearings in the bottom of the pan. They were about the size of a ball point pen head. Tranny was not making any loud noise though. It will have to come out. So what are my best options at this time? And what will this cost to replace? What are the weak points to this 460LE tranny. If i get it rebuilt i want it to hold up for towing the GN/trailer.
Thanks
The 4L60-e transmission is not the best transmission that GM ever came up with, but I have seen many of them get used and abused and last a good amount of time. I have rebuilt many of them used in plowing and towing conditions in my shop. This is my opinion, everybody builds transmissions differently, but this has worked for me. Good, thorough rebuild, new reverse input drum with Alto wide band, Raybestos Z pack 3-4 clutch pack, beast sun shell, Sonnax servo and a good shift improver kit, I use the Transgo orange box ones for the E's. Also take a good long look at the planet gears in the rear(reaction) planet, have seen alot of them where the finish is starting to flake off load side of the planet gear, like it is wearing through the hardening on the planet gears. Make sure that the shop goes through the valve body and checks for broken springs/stuck valves and also cracks the pump open and goes over it with a fine tooth comb. i have seen a few rebuilds from volume/hack rebuilders that barely spray the valve body or pump with some brake clean before slamming it back in without even a glance at it, IMO that is not the way to rebuild a transmission!
I am not a sponsering member, so I don't belive I can quote any numbers, but the are plenty of reputable people on this board that may be able to help you. I can say though, if it seems to cheap, there is a reason behind it then!!!

I am sure I left something out, and again, this is my opinion..... Hope this helps more than confuses ;)

Mike
 
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