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A challenge for Mr. Mease.....(NO!! It's not a gripe!!)

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The GMHTP test took two months of planning and some serious thrashing to get done, so let me clear a few things up:

First off, I'll give you the large fan comment. We don't have access to the "intercooler fans" used for more accurate dyno testing of coolers. If we did (and not too many do), I would have used one. But the circular fan was used consistently with both the stock and the Mease intercoolers.

The GMHTP stock versus Mease intercooler test was not only on the dyno, we performed drag testing as well. The stock cooler was tested in great conditions, -725 density altitude, and it just so happened that the Mease was tested in worse conditions, with a 2400+ DA. That's how the ball bounces and Keith understands that I wanted to swap coolers on the dyno with the wide-band on to see where my A/F ratio was, not at the track where I (currently) don't have the wide-band or EGT to make sure the head gaskets don't exit stage left. If Keith wants to have a track day with a few witnesses present to do a same-day stock/front-mount/Mease track test, we would set aside a paragraph or two to publish the results as long as everything was consistent.

Nothing during the dyno testing was "suspect":
The one glitch (and believe me, with a high-boost test including welding on four bungs for pressure/temp in/out, there can be a lot of glitches!) was not being able to get the shroud on and tested on the same day. However, the car was prepared exactly the same way for every single dyno pull: boost at 24, high-gear timing at 25, pump gas drained, same amount of C16 put in, dump open, and scan tools up and running. The SLP crew runs a SuperFlow dyno, and the same load and correction factors were used from test to test.
I stated that the pre-Mease power of 361 horses and 434 lb-ft at the wheels were where I had left off after the TE44 and 50-lb. injectors--when the car was set up the exact same way as listed above, save for a slight increase in boost creep between the two.

If anyone has any other questions about this test, contact me at rick.jensen@primedia.com
 
Hey Rick....Thank you for clarifying the test for me. It just didn't say in the test that both coolers were tested with the same criteria. And as stated in your article, the conditions were horrible for the Mease cooler and it still ran a little better than the stocker under ideal conditions. So it definitely works, no doubt. This test would just confirm or deny that it flows and cools as well as or better than a front mount. There seems to be an ongoing debate about the benefits of the front mount to the stocker and at what point which one is needed. This comparo could help settle the debate. More likely, it will add fuel to it. And it is great that you are offering to include the results in your mag.

Pronto...What you propose is pretty much what I suggested. The only difference is the level of car that you want to see used. I would think it safe to say that anyone considering a choice between a front mount and the INTTR1 have already done all the fuel mods (pump, hotwire, afpr, injectors). Also they more than likely have already gone to a bigger turbo and adjustable wastgate with the 49 and 44 being the most popular choices. If these mods aren't in place, I really can't see the need for any upgrade from the stock intercooler. So a car in the high 11's low 12's would make for a better test bed for the masses.
 
Originally posted by Pitbozz
Hey Rick....Thank you for clarifying the test for me. It just didn't say in the test that both coolers were tested with the same criteria. And as stated in your article, the conditions were horrible for the Mease cooler and it still ran a little better than the stocker under ideal conditions. So it definitely works, no doubt. This test would just confirm or deny that it flows and cools as well as or better than a front mount. There seems to be an ongoing debate about the benefits of the front mount to the stocker and at what point which one is needed. This comparo could help settle the debate. More likely, it will add fuel to it. And it is great that you are offering to include the results in your mag.

Pronto...What you propose is pretty much what I suggested. The only difference is the level of car that you want to see used. I would think it safe to say that anyone considering a choice between a front mount and the INTTR1 have already done all the fuel mods (pump, hotwire, afpr, injectors). Also they more than likely have already gone to a bigger turbo and adjustable wastgate with the 49 and 44 being the most popular choices. If these mods aren't in place, I really can't see the need for any upgrade from the stock intercooler. So a car in the high 11's low 12's would make for a better test bed for the masses.

how about a car with 220 cfm irons, sheetmetal intake and GT42bb run at 8 psi, that should account for some high 11s?

:D :D :D

Lastly, I would like to thank Rick, the boys at SLP, eric schertz, and my employees for making this testing possible....and for the customers that make everything evolve, thanks much all.

Rick, the beer count I owe you is getting up there!!!!!!! :)

-MPE RACING FABRICATION-
 
Run the front mount at 8 lbs and yours at 35 lbs and then post the results!!! I bet you win that comparo!!;) ;)
 
Originally posted by Pitbozz
Run the front mount at 8 lbs and yours at 35 lbs and then post the results!!! I bet you win that comparo!!;) ;)

Hey you there!!! I need a stock intercooler you got any:D :D :D :rolleyes: :eek: :cool:
 
I got one I backed over and accidently shot with my AK I can probably let go of. :D For you....$400!!:eek: :eek: :p
 
lol!!!

Originally posted by Pitbozz
I got one I backed over and accidently shot with my AK I can probably let go of. :D For you....$400!!:eek: :eek: :p

You got a permit for that????:p ;) I just picked up an SW .500 its a BMF big N baaaddd....you pull this thing out on someone....they're runnin:D :eek: :cool:
 
Permit?!? We don't need no stinking permit!!! Yeah that SW is a hog! You shoot that thing in Jersey and your probably going to hit somebody in New York!!:o :o
 
Re: hey brick

Originally posted by Mease Performance
retart empty your mailbox....whaddya think this is MPE??????:eek:

My bad it's empty now so send away.......

:D
 
Id like to see a list of all the people running KM s IC running 9.50 or better- most likely it would be 0! Big claims-Little proof.
 
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