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Little6pack

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Gas prices aren't rising because oil industry profits are up - it's the other way around. And there are a number of factors at work at the pump.

For starters, gasoline prices almost always rise as summer approaches (far from summer where I live) because demand goes up as people go on vacation and use more gas. Refiners anticipate this and starting about now, they begin building up stockpiles of gasoline. If they make enough, and can keep running at full capacity through the summer, gas prices may not rise too much from here.

But if demand gets too high and/or they can’t make enough gas, prices will go higher. Sometimes this is because a big refinery has to shut down for maintenance or fire. Last year, the string of hurricanes interrupted deliveries of crude oil to Gulf refineries, which hurt supplies.

Some parts of the country also see local spikes in prices because some states require “reformulated” gasoline in the summer months to meet clean air standards. So you can only sell a specific blend for a particular region. If supplies of that blend get low, the price goes up.

But the real villain at the pump is rising oil prices, which have roughly doubled in the past 18 months to recent highs of $55 a barrel. Oil companies didn’t set those prices (much as they’d love to be able to), the market did. Demand for oil is rising worldwide, and older oil fields are drying up. So prices are going up. And gasoline prices have risen even slower than crude oil so far this year, so they still have to “catch up” a bit.

The question we'd ask you is: why should an oil company -- or refiner, or gasoline dealer -- charge less than the market price? And, if they did, who should they give all those profits back to? Should the government set price caps on gasoline prices? If it did, why would oil companies continue to make gasoline? Without profit, what's their motivation?

Contrary to popular belief, oil companies don't always leave the table with huge winnings. When they made similar bets in the late 1990s -- and oil prices crashed to $10 -- they got clobbered. For a time, it was cheaper to find new oil on Wall Street -- by just buying up another oil company -- than it was to poke new holes in the ground. That's why so many oil companies these days have two names: ExxonMobil, ChevronTexaco, etc.

And that's also one reason oil supplies are tight today: not enough money has been invested in drilling new wells. We'd rather see oil companies making the cash they need to poke new holes in the ground. Unless they do, oil supplies will remain tight and prices will continue to move even higher.

And sure, oil company executives and investors are pocketing a nice chunk of change with their $50-oil-price windfall. But most of the money you're spending to fill up your gas tank is going to big oil producers like Saudi Arabia and Iran. The United States produces about 10 percent of the world's oil supplies (and falling). OPEC produces four times that much.

Wouldn't you rather have the money going to U.S. oil companies?
 
Our money doesn't go directly to US companies because our oil gets put on the world market for sale like everyone else's oil and goes to the highest bidder.

I agree completely that we should be exploring in places like Anwar. The problem though is we get our oil so cheap from the Arabs because we give them something in return that is more valuable than oil.... FOOD! They can't grow corn for their chickens in the desert. :p I say it's time to start charging them a little more for their boxes of fruit loops.
 
Congress not raising the minimum wage really helped also.
Think about it....:mad:
Just my 2 cents.:)
 
Not to mention the snow storms in the NE keeping demand for winter heating oils up, so production of the "summer" gas can't start yet. hehe, its 80+ degrees here :D
 
Has anyone on this board EVER found a single gas station that was out of gas?

I've been to the store when there wasn't no tomatoes...

I've been to the lake when there wasn't no water...

but I'll be damned if I can remember the last time I found a gas station with no gas...

Until I find one, there ain't nobody gonna convince me there's any "supply shortage"...

All it takes to raise the price of oil is for one arab guy to say the words: "we may cut production"...they don't actually HAVE to cut production, only "hint" at it...

And another thing:

When gas was $1.20 for regular and $1.40 for premium, how come when regular goes to $2.40, premium only goes to $2.60 instead of $2.80? For 20 years or so, the price of gas has been all over the place, yet the 20 cent difference between regular and premium is somehow etched in stone...can someone 'splain that to me???

Oil & gas pricing just plain pisses me off (in case you couldn't guess!)
 
#1 reason why gas prices are rising is because George bush our president has a hold on it and he controls how much gas comes in and goes out of Iraq, he has to make a profit from all that money he invested in crude oil before he invaded Iraq .,what a better way to make profit than to put a hold on crude oil create a demand thus raising prices and in the process putting Millions of dollars into our beloved president pockets and those who backed him up, plain and simple, and if your dont like it Bite me..
 
one thing I don't understand, the cost of diesel is more than the cost of premium gas,yet it's less refind that gasoline. I am an owner operator, when I have to pay more for fuel the customer has to pay more. the part I can not understand is with higher fuel prices everything must go up! when everything goes up people buy less, when people buy less, less tax revenue is down, when tax revenue is down, quality of life in the US diminishes, and so on & so on & so on.
 
Originally posted by littlesixsteve
Contrary to popular belief, oil companies don't always leave the table with huge winnings. <snip>
And sure, oil company executives and investors are pocketing a nice chunk of change with their $50-oil-price windfall. But most of the money you're spending to fill up your gas tank is going to big oil producers like Saudi Arabia and Iran. The United States produces about 10 percent of the world's oil supplies (and falling). OPEC produces four times that much.

Wouldn't you rather have the money going to U.S. oil companies?
Hmmm.

"The giant oil companies just announced record profits for 2004. Exxon Mobil, the biggest oil company in the world, had after-tax profits of 26 billion dollars last year on its ongoing operations, up 52 per cent from 2003. ChevronTexaco had 13 billion dollars in profits, up 85 per cent from a year ago. And Shell Oil had profits of 19 billion dollars, up 48 per cent from 2003.
That $2 per gallon of gas and those $400 a month heating bills? Right from our pockets to theirs!" ref.
 
Originally posted by wiked87gn
#1 reason why gas prices are rising is because George bush our president has a hold on it and he controls how much gas comes in and goes out of Iraq, he has to make a profit from all that money he invested in crude oil before he invaded Iraq .,what a better way to make profit than to put a hold on crude oil create a demand thus raising prices and in the process putting Millions of dollars into our beloved president pockets and those who backed him up, plain and simple, and if your dont like it Bite me..

LINK TO VIDEO
 
Originally posted by wiked87gn
thank you for the link, i see all the bush loving people here are not bashing me yet, becuase they know i am right..

Nope, my mama told me long ago that only a moron argues with a moron. :)
 
Originally posted by wiked87gn
Millions of dollars into our beloved president pockets and those who backed him up, plain and simple, and if your dont like it Bite me..

Yep, it's all Bush's fault, only if you ignore the Constitution, and the basics of American Government.
 
Originally posted by Buick From Hell
Has anyone on this board EVER found a single gas station that was out of gas?

Yep, back in 74, it was very common.
 
not really just hate the Freaking gas prices we are paying because of his capitalistic A**..
 
Its my understanding from someone in the gas industry that we ain't seen nothing yet...$4-$5 a gallon by next year!! Say goodbye to all the soccer mom's and their SUVs with their cell phones glued to their ears....
 
praise the lord about the moms and SUV's but as far as the gas prices Screw George...

Originally posted by 2QUIK6
Its my understanding from someone in the gas industry that we ain't seen nothing yet...$4-$5 a gallon by next year!! Say goodbye to all the soccer mom's and their SUVs with their cell phones glued to their ears....
 
Originally posted by 2QUIK6
Its my understanding from someone in the gas industry that we ain't seen nothing yet...$4-$5 a gallon by next year!!
my personal oppinion is that is BS, #1) I don't think the american people would stand for that. #2) if that is the case what most people do not understand is 90+% of our products are moved buy truck, if you look @ how much everything has gone up in price in the last year, since we have seen a .50 per gallon increase, just think what things would cost if fuel goes up another $2.50. our grocery bill alone has gone up about $30 since the rise in fuel costs. this is why I don't believe we would see those type prices here in the USA. don't get me wrong it could but I highly dout it.
 
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