Active duty army

[Dr.drivability]

Any active duty buick guys on the board? What's it like these days? Kinda thinking of going back in. Economy in Michigan is tanked!!! Served 88-97. Kinda miss it!

 

[imjoesnuffy]

12 year break in service, yikes....

How old are you? What was your MOS and grade? Recruiting and retention have been so good as of late, you might not get to keep your old MOS, based on needs of the Army. The possibility exists you may not get your old rank back either.

Really the Army hasn't changed much other than uniforms, the people in it have. But the operaions tempo is train, train, deploy with about a year between deployments if you end up at Campbell, Bragg, Drum, little longer at other places, but not much. Because of the optempo, you have lots of guys running around with a lot of combat experience. Nothing anymore to a SFC (E-7) with 7 or 8 years time in service. If they can do the job while deployed, why shouldn't they be promoted right? Just remember age does not equal rank if you do decide to go back in. Check out a pay chart, you might be surprised what active duty pay is nowadays.

If you were an officer it is even better. Don't quote me on this but 96% selection rate to CPT, 84% selection rate to MAJ, and 76% selection rate to LTC. Obviously it varies by branch, but unless you with your own hand kill someone in your own command, you will get promoted.

If you have any specific questions just ask here or via pm.

 

[Dr.drivability]

How old are you? What was your MOS and grade? Recruiting and retention have been so good as of late, you might not get to keep your old MOS, based on needs of the Army. The possibility exists you may not get your old rank back either.

Really the Army hasn't changed much other than uniforms, the people in it have. But the operaions tempo is train, train, deploy with about a year between deployments if you end up at Campbell, Bragg, Drum, little longer at other places, but not much. Because of the optempo, you have lots of guys running around with a lot of combat experience. Nothing anymore to a SFC (E-7) with 7 or 8 years time in service. If they can do the job while deployed, why shouldn't they be promoted right? Just remember age does not equal rank if you do decide to go back in. Check out a pay chart, you might be surprised what active duty pay is nowadays.

If you were an officer it is even better. Don't quote me on this but 96% selection rate to CPT, 84% selection rate to MAJ, and 76% selection rate to LTC. Obviously it varies by branch, but unless you with your own hand kill someone in your own command, you will get promoted.

If you have any specific questions just ask here or via pm.

39 got out in 97w/ 9years in, E5P Maxed out on civilian and military education. 45E was my mos.

 

[imjoesnuffy]

39 got out in 97w/ 9years in, E5P Maxed out on civilian and military education. 45E was my mos.

Im certainly not up to date on what the needs of the current army are regarding turret mechanics. There has been a focus as of late for moving away from heavy armor, but the army still needs it's tanks. Talk to a recruiter and see what they say. I know a lot of the bonuses have been cut back for enlistment and re-enlistment. I know lots of guys that got out right before ten years that regret but it is a personal choice.

 

[Dr.drivability]

Im certainly not up to date on what the needs of the current army are regarding turret mechanics. There has been a focus as of late for moving away from heavy armor, but the army still needs it's tanks. Talk to a recruiter and see what they say. I know a lot of the bonuses have been cut back for enlistment and re-enlistment. I know lots of guys that got out right before ten years that regret but it is a personal choice.

I'm figuring something 63 series as I did crosstrain as a 63S and I am an ase master mechanic. The entire time i've been out i've ran garages, so I'm hoping this will help. Light wheel vehicle mechanic poss.

 

[HighPSI]

The 63 series is now 91. So you would be looking into a 91B for a light wheeled vehicle mechanic. If you want to get in, I would do it soon. Last year Florida stopped recruiting from July to September. Usually, the only way you will get a bonus is if you come in as E-4 and are MOSQ'ed for what you are coming in for.

 

[benoitthegr8]

The 63 series is now 91. So you would be looking into a 91B for a light wheeled vehicle mechanic. If you want to get in, I would do it soon. Last year Florida stopped recruiting from July to September. Usually, the only way you will get a bonus is if you come in as E-4 and are MOSQ'ed for what you are coming in for.

A caveat to that is one of the specialty fields, because certain MOS's are considered critical: 38 series,37F,18 series, 97E, there also giving big payouts for reenlistment. Bad part is you would have to change your MOS and attend a lengthy school. My MOS they were giving C zone bonuses to E7/E8... lump sum, that is unheard of... and before the present CINC was elected...

 

[Flaco]

My last year in the Army was from 06 to 07 and I was a recruiter in Vegas. I'm sure lots of things have changed. First find your DD214 the original would be nice. I remember it took for ever to order one from ST. Louis. Anywho You said your 39 with 9 yrs active. For the army it means youre really 30, they just subtract the active time.

Just don't get angry if they don't give you what you want. I remember prior service was on the same boat as a GED. With the economy being low my fellow recruiters who are still doing it, say they get lots of walkins with degrees. So bottom line you might only get job that are NEEDS OF THE ARMY. Man I hated being a recruiter. Oh and you might have to go through basic training again not sure though or they might send you to a place called warrior transition course. The one cool thing I remember was being able to reserve a job for somone from thier own home. It's just a list that a computer spits out based on your Asvab and line scores. then you and your recruiter go down the line and pick a job.

 

[charlief1]

If I was 4 or 5 years younger I'd sign up. They changed the age to 42 when I turned 43 so I'm out now. Good luck on your decision. BTW, 95B here and an ASE Master.

 

[Dr.drivability]

The 63 series is now 91. So you would be looking into a 91B for a light wheeled vehicle mechanic. If you want to get in, I would do it soon. Last year Florida stopped recruiting from July to September. Usually, the only way you will get a bonus is if you come in as E-4 and are MOSQ'ed for what you are coming in for.

Ithought 91 series used to be medical, like medic. I had to order a DD214, WOW 80 bucks

 

[lyonsd]

Any active duty buick guys on the board? What's it like these days? Kinda thinking of going back in. Economy in Michigan is tanked!!! Served 88-97. Kinda miss it!

If you did, Obama would be your boss. Can you live with that?

 

[HighPSI]

Medical is now 68 series If you want, you can give me a call after the first, and I can get you your DD214, and a REDD report which will have your RE code, etc...

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

Let me tell you, that it's NOT what it used to be... I cannot WAIT to retire in 3 years... If I can STAND it long enough to make it 3 more years..... I LOVE my brothers and sisters in our armed services, and I give them everything I can, to help them out. I always buy vets drinks in bars, hold doors open for them, and send them care packages overseas. If vets don't take care of other vets, noone will.... BUT... overall, todays military is absolutely ill-disciplined, fat, dirty, disrespectful, and out of shape. They can't shoot, move OR communicate. They treat their superiors like crap, back talk them, don't wear their uniforms with pride, purposely throw trash on the ground, over eat, and fail their P.T. tests constantly. They've pretty much lost all their pride, integrity, and espirit de corps. It's rather disgusting and disenheartening.
It sucks, as it used to be a great place to work, and serve. It was a career of pride. It is not anymore.
I had to tell you, so that you don't get blindsided, if you do decide to re-up. Because I'm afraid, that if you re-up, and see how messed up it has gotten, we may have yet one more soldier, who doesn't want to be here.
As of now, the only places that still maintain ANY hint of discipline, are the airborne infantry, lrrp, ranger, and SF units.
If you do decide to re-up, I wish you the best of luck, and bring a lot of patience with you

 

[Dr.drivability]

Got my DD214 and interviewed with a recruiter yesterday. Did the whole 20 question, height/weight, blah, blah blah now they won't leave me alone!! Man, after 20years, they still promise you you world!!! You will make rank quickly, eligible for warrant school!!!

 

[imjoesnuffy]

It was a career of pride. It is not anymore.
As of now, the only places that still maintain ANY hint of discipline, are the airborne infantry, lrrp, ranger, and SF units.

I don't know you, so don't take this as a personal attack. But seriously WTF? What rank are you to have 17 years and have such a lousy attitude? Are you active duty? Not AGR, not active guard, you are active duty?

I'm not anything elite or special, but I thrive on making units better, not focusing on the things you aren't willing to put the work in on to fix. Every discrepancy you walk by is a new standard. Once you set and enforce standards the job gets easier. I've been with many different units but have never seen the types of problems you describe in one unit for very long. It's too easy to chapter them out.

 

[Flaco]

Got my DD214 and interviewed with a recruiter yesterday. Did the whole 20 question, height/weight, blah, blah blah now they won't leave me alone!! Man, after 20years, they still promise you you world!!! You will make rank quickly, eligible for warrant school!!!

Warrant school is not so hard to get. My station put in a guy who was infantry, then got out and was a security guard for a night club in vegas. It was wierd saluting him when he came back to the office wth the little black square on his chest. Also two guys I deployed with in 04 are now apache pilots. So warrant school isn't a fairy tale, it will take some effort on your part if you want it.

And yes the Army is changing. During recruiting school a drill Sgt. got in my face becuase I tried to correct a female soldier for not wearing her beret and to top it off she had on some hot pink sun glasses. He was saying to stay in my lane blah blah. I told him I had 18 seconds to unf*ck what he took 18 weeks to f*ck up. My lil bro agrees that the Army is soft now. He just came back from boot and said it was cake and didn't like how fattys failed the PT test and their Dsgt. still passed them with a minimum score.

 

[Dr.drivability]

Warrant school is not so hard to get. My station put in a guy who was infantry, then got out and was a security guard for a night club in vegas. It was wierd saluting him when he came back to the office wth the little black square on his chest. Also two guys I deployed with in 04 are now apache pilots. So warrant school isn't a fairy tale, it will take some effort on your part if you want it.

And yes the Army is changing. During recruiting school a drill Sgt. got in my face becuase I tried to correct a female soldier for not wearing her beret and to top it off she had on some hot pink sun glasses. He was saying to stay in my lane blah blah. I told him I had 18 seconds to unf*ck what he took 18 weeks to f*ck up. My lil bro agrees that the Army is soft now. He just came back from boot and said it was cake and didn't like how fattys failed the PT test and their Dsgt. still passed them with a minimum score.

Told me 34 pushups 38 situps and 18:18 on the run for my age. Heck I could have walked the 2mi that fast!!! Soooo The first I start busting azz!!! I don't know if I'll go agr or active duty yet, but I'm motivated to do something!! The things turbosmackdown are what I see out here and discust me!! I own a garage and can't even find anyone with good work ethic that will show up to work on time!! They think it's no big deal! After 12years out It's starting to affect my attitude! Be where your supposed to be doing what your supposed to be doing when and how your supposed to be doing it!! Some of these guys will spend more time and effort trying to get out of working than just getting it done!!

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

Told me 34 pushups 38 situps and 18:18 on the run for my age. Heck I could have walked the 2mi that fast!!! Soooo The first I start busting azz!!! I don't know if I'll go agr or active duty yet, but I'm motivated to do something!! The things turbosmackdown are what I see out here and discust me!! I own a garage and can't even find anyone with good work ethic that will show up to work on time!! They think it's no big deal! After 12years out It's starting to affect my attitude! Be where your supposed to be doing what your supposed to be doing when and how your supposed to be doing it!! Some of these guys will spend more time and effort trying to get out of working than just getting it done!!

Reeeaally now... bro, you're going to see ALLL SORTS of that bulls **** in todays army.

And what rank and status am I Joe snuffy? That's completely irrelevant, and has nothing to do with what I've seen. I prefer to keep most of my personal life private, as I've seen some funny stuff go down over the internet.
I've served all over the world, along side of all 3 other services, to include training, and training with, 13 other militarys from other countries, and what I say is the truth. I'm not meaning to insult you in the least, but maybe you don't see these gross violations of discipline, because we may have different views of what real discipline is. I've been combat arms for 15 years, and I can tell you, things have REALLY changed.
I just got back from a tour in Africa, where it was a pretty even mix of Air Force, Marines, and Naval personnel, and I have NEVER, EVER seen such filth in my life. Every single latrine, was completely trashed, DAILY. Crap all over the floors, broken mirrors constantly, and the grafitti on the walls was just out of control. (honestly... grafitti?? how old are we again?) Joes would throw trash all over the ground, all day long, without a care in the world. Joes would walk around, in broad day light, in front of God and everybody, with IPOD EAR PHONES in their ears, IN UNIFORM. They did this, because they didn't fear any repercussions. Because there WERE no repercussions. They would literally, get up in the chow hall after eating, and leave their empty coke cans, and dirty napkins, right there on the table. Sailors and soldiers, would wear their headgear, cocked back on their heads, as if they were on their way to a tractor pull. They would wear sunglasses that were OBVIOUSLY out of regulation, like they were walking on a runway at a fashion show. People walking around, like 25 POUNDS overweight. No, this isn't a little chub that was put on inadvertently. This was OBVIOUSLY, YEARS of pencil whipping these fools' PT test cards. There's no FREAKING WAY IN HELL, ANY of those morons passed a real PT test, ANYWHERE in the last 3 years. NO WAY MAN. I'd bet my buick on it! They don't fear failing, because there's no ramifications now. Because if there was, they wouldn't tempt it. And this wasn't oneseys and twoseys. This was 30-40 people on post man, and I'm not exaggerating one bit.
I was recently at a post, that had some advanced individual trainees there, attending classes. These kids would have AD's (accidental discharges) CONSTANTLY, (with blanks) and then, they would laugh at them. UNBELIEVABLE. My jaw was on the ground constantly. Nothing happened to them. Ever. (and you should see how they talk to their platoon sergeants)

Do you realize what would happen to me, if I was walking around in uniform, with walkman headphones on??? You wouldn't walk straight for a MONTH. In addition to the bruises you'd have all over your body. I couldn't IMAGINE, doing something that BLATANTLY ****ED UP, in broad daylight.
This was just a minor percentage, of the examples I could give to you. All I see, when I walk around a post, is kids. Kids, walking around, with earphones in their ears, and texting on their stupidass cell phones. In uniform. This isn't the Army. This is the freaking boy scouts.
If these little bastards spoke back to their superiors like they do now, back in the day, they'd get a beat down soo fierce they'd NEVER do that again. EVER. You can bet your backside on that one.

My team leader, was getting out of the shower, and the floor had about one inch of water built up in it. He was like "wtf??". It was this stupid ass Airman, showering with the shower curtain outside of the shower. Just like the HUGE SIGN in the shower trailer specifically said NOT TO DO, BECAUSE IT FLOODS THE SHOWERS. So my team leader said "HEY, PUT THAT SHOWER CURTAIN BACK IN THE ****IN SHOWER! YOU'RE FLOODING THE SHOWERS MAN!" This guy remains silent, as if he ignores him, maybe he'll just go away. Wrong move ignoring an Infantryman. Then he shouts louder. The airman replies "I'm not doing it. I don't want that dirty curtain to touch my back when I'm showering..." lol. So my boss waits till he get's done, and reams him a new *******. Balls him out up one side, and down the other. And said "If I see you do that again when I'm in here, I'm going to beat your little ass, do you understand me??"
That wasn't the first, nor the last time he went ballistic on someone on post. What in the holy hell would possess someone to mouth off like that, to someone that they had no clue what rank they were?? He's a pretty high rank, but, what if he was, for example, a captain? Then what? Wasn't that guy scared, of the consequences? Nope. Not one iota. Because there are no consequences, hat's why.
It was rampant in Iraq too. Trust me, if you were in the combat arms in the early 90s or earlier, you'd see what I'm saying, because todays discipline is simply non existent. It's a WAYYY softer, more tolerant Army now, and it sucks, because it used to be pretty cool lol.
Hell, even in my unit just 3 years ago, you'd catch an awfully nasty beat down, if you mouthed off to someone like these kids do now.
Absolutely zero pride. Everything is handed to you now. No spitshining of ANY footgear. No ironing of uniforms, no shining of medals or awards/buttons on the class A uniforms, corofram dress shoes are standard issue. These kids don't have to do ANYthing these days. No room inspections, nothin. They get allll the latest and greatest equipment, and then never learn how to use it. Then either abuse or lose it afterwards lol.
And then they lower the pt test minimums for basic training too. Now, they're pushing their pt failures out of basic, and right into permanent party. How in the HELL, do you pass an army pt test with a 50 PERCENT????? Who knows, but they're doing it... You can't swear AT, or IN FRONT of trainees now, and the muslims can wear their religious headgear, IN UNIFORM too. If you tried that in my last unit, you wouldn't make it past the first day lol. Guaranteed.
This female soldier, was wearing her muslim headgear (FULL head wrap) while indoors, during a briefing. The first words out of this colonels mouth was "is that authorized???" She said yes, and he never questioned it... Why? Because it would have gone nowhere anyhow... Me and my teamleader looked that reg up IMMEDIATELY after that briefing, and it was indeed NOT authorized. The only way it would have been authorized, was if her issue headgear would completely conceal it while worn. This was a FULL HEADWRAP, that was obviously not authorized, and she had to have known that from reading the reg...but she did it anyways... No discipline, whatsoever.. It's gone too far in my opinion...

As you can see, I'm pretty passionate about my military. All I want, is for it to be done right. I was soo gung ho, and to see it all degraded pisses me off. It was a huge part of my life and everything I was, and did, was centered around it. The army was my entire life... And now, it's full of liberals, that are ruining it. And I can't stand it anymore. It's wronger than 2 boys ****in.

 

[Dr.drivability]

Reeeaally now... bro, you're going to see ALLL SORTS of that bulls **** in todays army.

And what rank and status am I Joe snuffy? That's completely irrelevant, and has nothing to do with what I've seen. I prefer to keep most of my personal life private, as I've seen some funny stuff go down over the internet.
I've served all over the world, along side of all 3 other services, to include training, and training with, 13 other militarys from other countries, and what I say is the truth. I'm not meaning to insult you in the least, but maybe you don't see these gross violations of discipline, because we may have different views of what real discipline is. I've been combat arms for 15 years, and I can tell you, things have REALLY changed.
I just got back from a tour in Africa, where it was a pretty even mix of Air Force, Marines, and Naval personnel, and I have NEVER, EVER seen such filth in my life. Every single latrine, was completely trashed, DAILY. Crap all over the floors, broken mirrors constantly, and the grafitti on the walls was just out of control. (honestly... grafitti?? how old are we again?) Joes would throw trash all over the ground, all day long, without a care in the world. Joes would walk around, in broad day light, in front of God and everybody, with IPOD EAR PHONES in their ears, IN UNIFORM. They did this, because they didn't fear any repercussions. Because there WERE no repercussions. They would literally, get up in the chow hall after eating, and leave their empty coke cans, and dirty napkins, right there on the table. Sailors and soldiers, would wear their headgear, cocked back on their heads, as if they were on their way to a tractor pull. They would wear sunglasses that were OBVIOUSLY out of regulation, like they were walking on a runway at a fashion show. People walking around, like 25 POUNDS overweight. No, this isn't a little chub that was put on inadvertently. This was OBVIOUSLY, YEARS of pencil whipping these fools' PT test cards. There's no FREAKING WAY IN HELL, ANY of those morons passed a real PT test, ANYWHERE in the last 3 years. NO WAY MAN. I'd bet my buick on it! They don't fear failing, because there's no ramifications now. Because if there was, they wouldn't tempt it. And this wasn't oneseys and twoseys. This was 30-40 people on post man, and I'm not exaggerating one bit.
I was recently at a post, that had some advanced individual trainees there, attending classes. These kids would have AD's (accidental discharges) CONSTANTLY, (with blanks) and then, they would laugh at them. UNBELIEVABLE. My jaw was on the ground constantly. Nothing happened to them. Ever. (and you should see how they talk to their platoon sergeants)

Do you realize what would happen to me, if I was walking around in uniform, with walkman headphones on??? You wouldn't walk straight for a MONTH. In addition to the bruises you'd have all over your body. I couldn't IMAGINE, doing something that BLATANTLY ****ED UP, in broad daylight.
This was just a minor percentage, of the examples I could give to you. All I see, when I walk around a post, is kids. Kids, walking around, with earphones in their ears, and texting on their stupidass cell phones. In uniform. This isn't the Army. This is the freaking boy scouts.
If these little bastards, spoke back to their superiors like they do now, back in the day, they'd get a beat down soo fierce, they'd NEVER do that again. EVER. You can bet your backside on that one.

My team leader, was getting out of the shower, and the floor had about 1 inch of water built up in it. He was like "wtf??". It was this stupid ass airman, showering with the shower curtain outside of the shower. Just like the HUGE SIGN in the shower trailer specifically said NOT TO DO, BECAUSE IT FLOODS THE SHOWERS. So my team leader said "HEY, PUT THAT SHOWER CURTAIN BACK IN THE ****IN SHOWER! YOU'RE FLOODING THE SHOWERS MAN!" This guy remains silent, as if he ignores him, maybe he'll just go away. Wrong move ignoring an infantryman. Then he shouts louder. The airman replies "I'm not doing it. I don't want that dirty curtain to touch my back when I'm showering..." lol. So my boss waits till he get's done, and reams him a new *******. Balls him out up one side, and down the other. And said "If I see you do that again when I'm in here, I'm going to beat your little ass, do you understand me??"
That wasn't the first, nor the last time he went ballistic on someone on post. What in the holy hell, would possess someone, to mouth off like that, to someone that they had no clue what rank they were?? He's a pretty high rank, but, what if he was, for example, a captain? Then what? Wasn't that guy scared, of the consequences? Nope. Not one iota. Because there IS no consequences.. That's why.
It was rampant in Iraq too. Trust me, if you were in the combat arms, in the early 90s, or earlier, you'd see what I'm seeing. Because todays discipline, is simply non existent. It's a WAYYY softer, more tolerant Army now, and it sucks, because it used to be pretty cool lol.
Hell, even in my unit just 3 years ago, you'd catch an awfully nasty beat down, if you mouthed off to someone like these kids do now.
Absolutely zero pride. Everything is handed to you now. No spitshining of ANY footgear. No ironing of uniforms, no shining of medals or awards/buttons on the class A uniforms, corofram dress shoes are standard issue. These kids don't have to do ANYthing these days. No room inspections, nothin. They get allll the latest and greatest equipment, and then never learn how to use it. Then either abuse or lose it afterwards lol.
And then they lower the pt test minimums for basic training too. Now, they're pushing their pt failures out of basic, and right into permanent party. How in the HELL, do you pass an army pt test, with a 50 PERCENT????? Who knows, but they're doing it... You can't swear AT, or IN FRONT of trainees now, and the muslims can wear their religious headgear, IN UNIFORM too. If you tried that in my last unit, you wouldn't make it past the first day lol. Guaranteed.
This female soldier, was wearing her muslim headgear (FULL head wrap) while indoors, during a briefing. The first words out of this colonels mouth was "is that authorized???" She said yes, and he never questioned it... Why? Because it would have gone nowhere anyhow... Me and my teamleader looked that reg up IMMEDIATELY after that briefing, and it was indeed NOT authorized. The only way it would have been authorized, was if her issue headgear would completely conceal it, while worn. This was a FULL HEADWRAP, that was obviously not authorized, and she had to have known that, from reading the reg...but she did it anyways... No discipline. Whatsoever.. It's gone too far in my opinion...

As you can see, I'm pretty passionate about my military. All I want, is for it to be done right. I was soo gung ho, and to see it all degraded pisses me off. It was a huge part of my life and everything I was, and did, was centered around it. The army was my entire life... And now, it's full of liberals, that are ruining it. And I can't stand it anymore. It's wronger than 2 boys ****in.

I really hope your wrong cause my cocrans were spit shined and bdu's had a starched knife edge on them. It was kinda expected of nco's when I was in, even if you were a tank mechanic!!! It just makes you stand tall and be proud of the uniform!! Funny thing, The staff seargent that I'm dealing with has said "bro or bra" more than once! Now I've never been a recruiter, but and nco in uniform saying bro or bra?? Just hit me kinda funny!!!

 

[imjoesnuffy]

Reeeaally now... bro, you're going to see ALLL SORTS of that bulls **** in todays army.

And what rank and status am I Joe snuffy? That's completely irrelevant, and has nothing to do with what I've seen. I prefer to keep most of my personal life private, as I've seen some funny stuff go down over the internet.
I've served all over the world, along side of all 3 other services, to include training, and training with, 13 other militarys from other countries, and what I say is the truth. I'm not meaning to insult you in the least, but maybe you don't see these gross violations of discipline, because we may have different views of what real discipline is. I've been combat arms for 15 years, and I can tell you, things have REALLY changed.
I just got back from a tour in Africa, where it was a pretty even mix of Air Force, Marines, and Naval personnel, and I have NEVER, EVER seen such filth in my life. Every single latrine, was completely trashed, DAILY. Crap all over the floors, broken mirrors constantly, and the grafitti on the walls was just out of control. (honestly... grafitti?? how old are we again?) Joes would throw trash all over the ground, all day long, without a care in the world. Joes would walk around, in broad day light, in front of God and everybody, with IPOD EAR PHONES in their ears, IN UNIFORM. They did this, because they didn't fear any repercussions. Because there WERE no repercussions. They would literally, get up in the chow hall after eating, and leave their empty coke cans, and dirty napkins, right there on the table. Sailors and soldiers, would wear their headgear, cocked back on their heads, as if they were on their way to a tractor pull. They would wear sunglasses that were OBVIOUSLY out of regulation, like they were walking on a runway at a fashion show. People walking around, like 25 POUNDS overweight. No, this isn't a little chub that was put on inadvertently. This was OBVIOUSLY, YEARS of pencil whipping these fools' PT test cards. There's no FREAKING WAY IN HELL, ANY of those morons passed a real PT test, ANYWHERE in the last 3 years. NO WAY MAN. I'd bet my buick on it! They don't fear failing, because there's no ramifications now. Because if there was, they wouldn't tempt it. And this wasn't oneseys and twoseys. This was 30-40 people on post man, and I'm not exaggerating one bit.
I was recently at a post, that had some advanced individual trainees there, attending classes. These kids would have AD's (accidental discharges) CONSTANTLY, (with blanks) and then, they would laugh at them. UNBELIEVABLE. My jaw was on the ground constantly. Nothing happened to them. Ever. (and you should see how they talk to their platoon sergeants)

Do you realize what would happen to me, if I was walking around in uniform, with walkman headphones on??? You wouldn't walk straight for a MONTH. In addition to the bruises you'd have all over your body. I couldn't IMAGINE, doing something that BLATANTLY ****ED UP, in broad daylight.
This was just a minor percentage, of the examples I could give to you. All I see, when I walk around a post, is kids. Kids, walking around, with earphones in their ears, and texting on their stupidass cell phones. In uniform. This isn't the Army. This is the freaking boy scouts.
If these little bastards, spoke back to their superiors like they do now, back in the day, they'd get a beat down soo fierce, they'd NEVER do that again. EVER. You can bet your backside on that one.

My team leader, was getting out of the shower, and the floor had about 1 inch of water built up in it. He was like "wtf??". It was this stupid ass airman, showering with the shower curtain outside of the shower. Just like the HUGE SIGN in the shower trailer specifically said NOT TO DO, BECAUSE IT FLOODS THE SHOWERS. So my team leader said "HEY, PUT THAT SHOWER CURTAIN BACK IN THE ****IN SHOWER! YOU'RE FLOODING THE SHOWERS MAN!" This guy remains silent, as if he ignores him, maybe he'll just go away. Wrong move ignoring an infantryman. Then he shouts louder. The airman replies "I'm not doing it. I don't want that dirty curtain to touch my back when I'm showering..." lol. So my boss waits till he get's done, and reams him a new *******. Balls him out up one side, and down the other. And said "If I see you do that again when I'm in here, I'm going to beat your little ass, do you understand me??"
That wasn't the first, nor the last time he went ballistic on someone on post. What in the holy hell, would possess someone, to mouth off like that, to someone that they had no clue what rank they were?? He's a pretty high rank, but, what if he was, for example, a captain? Then what? Wasn't that guy scared, of the consequences? Nope. Not one iota. Because there IS no consequences.. That's why.
It was rampant in Iraq too. Trust me, if you were in the combat arms, in the early 90s, or earlier, you'd see what I'm seeing. Because todays discipline, is simply non existent. It's a WAYYY softer, more tolerant Army now, and it sucks, because it used to be pretty cool lol.
Hell, even in my unit just 3 years ago, you'd catch an awfully nasty beat down, if you mouthed off to someone like these kids do now.
Absolutely zero pride. Everything is handed to you now. No spitshining of ANY footgear. No ironing of uniforms, no shining of medals or awards/buttons on the class A uniforms, corofram dress shoes are standard issue. These kids don't have to do ANYthing these days. No room inspections, nothin. They get allll the latest and greatest equipment, and then never learn how to use it. Then either abuse or lose it afterwards lol.
And then they lower the pt test minimums for basic training too. Now, they're pushing their pt failures out of basic, and right into permanent party. How in the HELL, do you pass an army pt test, with a 50 PERCENT????? Who knows, but they're doing it... You can't swear AT, or IN FRONT of trainees now, and the muslims can wear their religious headgear, IN UNIFORM too. If you tried that in my last unit, you wouldn't make it past the first day lol. Guaranteed.
This female soldier, was wearing her muslim headgear (FULL head wrap) while indoors, during a briefing. The first words out of this colonels mouth was "is that authorized???" She said yes, and he never questioned it... Why? Because it would have gone nowhere anyhow... Me and my teamleader looked that reg up IMMEDIATELY after that briefing, and it was indeed NOT authorized. The only way it would have been authorized, was if her issue headgear would completely conceal it, while worn. This was a FULL HEADWRAP, that was obviously not authorized, and she had to have known that, from reading the reg...but she did it anyways... No discipline. Whatsoever.. It's gone too far in my opinion...

As you can see, I'm pretty passionate about my military. All I want, is for it to be done right. I was soo gung ho, and to see it all degraded pisses me off. It was a huge part of my life and everything I was, and did, was centered around it. The army was my entire life... And now, it's full of liberals, that are ruining it. And I can't stand it anymore. It's wronger than 2 boys ****in.

I made it a point to ask you specifically if you were active and you didn't answer that question, you keep referring to things in the past tense, why? I've seen the things you are referring to from national guard units, but not from full time active duty. I have seen screwed up active duty units too, but with the right NCOs and leadership it is not a problem to fix at all and doesnt take very long either. If you've been in 17 years, you should at least be an NCO and all of the problems you identify, you can easily fix. Just a matter of doing the paperwork, to get rid of "leadership challenges." I asked your rank and status because we are discussing active duty Army, not AF, Navy and Marines or reserves or guard. Some say there should be no difference and I agree, but there are inherent differences. Let's compare apples to apples.