Braided SS Trans. Lines?

[85HOT-T]

Is anyone out there running braided SS trans line? I really dont like the steel tubing, its a PIA, plus I look that stainles braided look.

Any input of what u guys are running for trans. lines would be great, Thanks

 

[PaCemkr86]

im puttin some on my car right now
-6 an fittings

 

[85HOT-T]

where did u get them. Everyone Ive talked to says there lines will not support transmission fluid? Something about it eating away i think?

 

[Anthony K]

i have -6 Aeroquip, and all "rubber" will break down unless water is being pumped. cut open a #8 fuel line after a few years and see what it looks like, not to mention the fuel filter

 

[chrisgarrett]

i have -6 Aeroquip, and all "rubber" will break down unless water is being pumped. cut open a #8 fuel line after a few years and see what it looks like, not to mention the fuel filter

I not sure what you mean. Is there a correct hose to use that won't break down?

 

[Anthony K]

no......ALL rubber will break down, thats why most all trans lines are steel and most of the fuel lines are steel, with small parts at the end that are rubber. in the same breath though just use the braided stuff, it works and millions of racecars and street cars use the stuff

 

[Blown&Injected]

Trans coolers have been supplied with and using rubber hose (not natural rubber) for as long as I can remember.

Russel, Aeroquip, Earl's, Summit brand, they all say OK with trans fluid. I do not know where the myth got started but it seems that one would have to look hard to find braided line that is not compatible with trans fluid.

 

[Blown&Injected]

i have -6 Aeroquip, and all "rubber" will break down unless water is being pumped. cut open a #8 fuel line after a few years and see what it looks like, not to mention the fuel filter

Accidentally drove over a 45* hose end and broke it so it is sitting on my shelf right now - it has been used in my fuel system for many many many years. Often with pure race fuel in the lines for months on end - looks perfect.

From Summit Racing's Web Site:
BTW all the hose says about the same thing.

Brand: Earl's Performance Plumbing
Product Line: Earl's Performance Auto-Flex Hose
Hose Size: -6 AN
Length (ft): 20
Teflon Lined: No
Outer Material: Braided stainless steel

Fits Hose End Style
Auto-Fit,
Auto-Mate

Fluid Type
Engine oil,
Gasoline,
Transmission oil

 

[PaCemkr86]

you can also get steel braided with teflon tubing on the inside

 

[Anthony K]

Accidentally drove over a 45* hose end and broke it so it is sitting on my shelf right now - it has been used in my fuel system for many many many years. Often with pure race fuel in the lines for months on end - looks perfect.

From Summit Racing's Web Site:
BTW all the hose says about the same thing.

Brand: Earl's Performance Plumbing
Product Line: Earl's Performance Auto-Flex Hose
Hose Size: -6 AN
Length (ft): 20
Teflon Lined: No
Outer Material: Braided stainless steel

Fits Hose End Style
Auto-Fit,
Auto-Mate

Fluid Type
Engine oil,
Gasoline,
Transmission oil

you have magic hose then, pull the hose end off and tell me if it looks perfect, there will be peices of black hose in there from the fuel breaking it down. unless you use Earls one time ends, check an Aeroquip. it probably "looked" good.....wet....... did you dry it off/out? and then look at it? why after time does rubber hose get soft? musshy? chemicals acting on the rubber,breaking it down.

 

[85HOT-T]

So if I get a teflon coated hose will that be ok. What do you think Tony?

 

[galoush]

What about the fact that alot of Braided line is used in Hydrolic fluid , it got to be similair to tranny fluid . i have braided line on my car for the tranny w/o any problems . Since 1999

 

[85HOT-T]

were is a good place to get these lines? What length should I get, 3' 6'?

 

[Blown&Injected]

you have magic hose then, pull the hose end off and tell me if it looks perfect, there will be peices of black hose in there from the fuel breaking it down. unless you use Earls one time ends, check an Aeroquip. it probably "looked" good.....wet....... did you dry it off/out? and then look at it? why after time does rubber hose get soft? musshy? chemicals acting on the rubber,breaking it down.

OK
The hose has been on the shelf for about two months, so it is dry. Just cut about 1.5" off the end and the hose looks perfect on the inside. This is nothing special - just plain old stainless steel braided

As for why does some hose get soft and mushy after time? It is my observation that rubber hose that gets mushy is often because the hose has been in service for a very long time and also often has been abused in the form of leaking other parts such as power steering pumps, water pumps, and other oil seeping that in combination with massive repeated hot/cold cycles while getting soaked with fluids on the outside causes wear - but everything wears out after enough use.

Even braided steel lines will wear out, but the extra protection of the braided cover will help make the hose stronger and more resistant to harsh under hood conditions. Trans fluid is very close to (about the same as) hydraulic fluid. It is used in aircraft hydraulic systems and the factory is using it more often for trans, power steering, and brake lines - although brake lines use the Teflon lined hose.

 

[Blown&Injected]

were is a good place to get these lines? What length should I get, 3' 6'?

You should use some hose to mock up the proposed system. Braided lines need to be carefully cut to precise length considering the length of the adapters and hose ends. Consider the total amount needed so you do not end up with lots of small drop offs.

I ran my trans lines in the frame and to a cooler at the bottom front of the radiator support. One line was about 6 feet and the other about 6.5 feet (I think - was done a few months ago). In this case a 15' roll would work but a 20' section leaves me with a nice length that may be used for other stuff.

 

[ijames]

I'm pretty sure Mike Licht used to sell a kit for this, back at either Modern Muscle or maybe Ramchargers. Maybe he could be talked into offering it again for you?

 

[chrisgarrett]

If Mike offered a kit, I would buy it. Let's start a list.

 

[mybuick]

i have the aeroquip black hose and rout it in the frame.

trans end..
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/mybuick/100_1820.jpg

engine end...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/mybuick/100_1818.jpg

cooler...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/mybuick/100_1819.jpg

 

[CTX-SLPR]

Is that the socketless fiber reinforced hose that Aeroquip is putting out now?

 

[Scott Atk]

I run braided trans. lines as well. Although mine are run on top of the frame. Pics attached.