car won't crank after engine install

[Disney Lincoln]

Just got it all back together and it won't crank. No starter engagement at all. No clicks.. nothing. Wondering if this mystery lug has anything to do with it. I can't find what goes to if it was hooked up at all.

Any suggestions?

 

[Disney Lincoln]

Well... starter solenoid won't engage if jumped. Guess it went bad while it was off??? FML.

 

[pacecarta]

that plug is for the combo sender - oil sender idiot/secondary fuel pump supply... once 4psi oil is established. the sender is on passenger side of block behind lower radiator hose . note the OE sender may have been removed to install a sender for an aftermarket oil gauge or a mechanical gauge fitting

the solenoid terminal is the one closest to the block , the outer terminal is relay (on when solenoid engages )

 

[Disney Lincoln]

Thanks!!! The previous owner put in aftermarket gauges so no stock sender. I put on another starter and new it cranks but no start. Going to check for spark now.....

 

[Disney Lincoln]

No spark. Head scratch....

 

[Disney Lincoln]

Double post

 

[pacecarta]

do you have a steady service engine light at key on (you should)
need cam sensor and crank sensor hooked up , also needs ignition module connected
grounds at back of passenger head

for cam set up see www.vortexbuicks-etc.com
for crank sensor it should be in the slot furthest from connector and centered not hitting the balancer reluctor ring

http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/cam_sensor.htm
http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/cranksensor.htm


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[Disney Lincoln]

Yes. Steady engine light is on.

I didn't move the cam sensor when I had the engine out. Only did HG swap and oil pan clean out. I did take the balancer and stuff off but have it back on correctly I think. Coil packs plugged in and bolt tight.
Thanks for your help! I really appreciate it!!!

 

[Disney Lincoln]

Oh... and I have grounds on intake bolts. That's were they were when I took it apart so I tried to just put it back like it was. Should I move them?

 

[pacecarta]

put an ohm meter to them and see if they are grounded
i doubt thats your issue unless you missed some

 

[Disney Lincoln]

Ohm'd them and they show to be good grounds. I have what looks like 4 separate ring terminals bolted down there.

 

[Blazer406]

No spark...as suggested.....is crank sensor/cam sensor/ignition module or any of the wiring.

You had the balancer off....could you have damaged the crank sensor when you reinstalled the balancer somehow?

 

[Disney Lincoln]

That's certainly worth a look! I'll check it out and report my findings.

 

[Disney Lincoln]

*looks* OK to me. I assume the ring is supposed to be riding on the inside slot. The connector is not terribly tihhg fitting but it was running before. So I'm assuming I've missed something somewhere. There are a couple plugs near the air filter that I don't think we're used before but maybe??? I dunno.

 

[Disney Lincoln]

Got it!!! Thanks for steering me in the right direction!

While down there I was inspecting the connector and found one of the terminals was pushed back in the connector a bit. Pushed it back in and now it fires! Only ran for a second before it shut off but were on the tihhg track thanks to y'all!!!!

 

[Disney Lincoln]

Got the fast shut off figured out. It was hard to hear with an open downpipe, but I suspected a vacuum leak. Found tha tthe EGR block off plate isn't enough to seal the intake up and it has a bad vacuum leak there. Time to do some searching to find out the solution on that one.....

 

[pacecarta]

you need a gasket there and some high temp rtv
also use the clamp from the egr valve

 

[Disney Lincoln]

Have both gasket and copper RTV in place already. I suspected I would have trouble with this contraction when I installed it is why I doupbled up there. I just didn't see how that one bolt, so far away from where I really need the clamping load, would actually seal it. And it doesn't..... I don't see how using the stock EGR clamp will work.. Might have to mock that up.

http://fullthrottlespeed.com/itemdesc.asp+ic+092CHR1201+eq++Tp+

 

[pacecarta]

bend the sides in a little it will hold the plate down above the openings

 

[Disney Lincoln]

Sick!!!! Thanks for the help!!!