Coolant resevoir filling up

[SloGN]

first of all if you had knock before alky then you already had an issue
second the guy had a hose pop off the map . i think the issue is called ZIP TIES!!!!
third if you have the money to have a tsm and tso you have the money for race gas
as for the alky chips with knock ignore it is for transitional knock some cars get when spraying or if you have false knock i think its called FALSE KNOCK IGNORE

well i'm glad that it has that FALSE KNOCK ignore!. but how do you know it's false knock? some people can't hear spark knock.

Also just because you have ZIP TIES on the alky hose what if the fuse blows?, the controller fails?.

so spend the money now or spend it later.

 

[Daniel Jost]

i had this problem to me also, i also run on alky, and lifted my passenger side head, it didn't create any leaks during normal running but at full boost on a WOT run it would relieve a lot of fluid from an over pressurized cooling system, when i removed the gasket the fire ring was perfect but the composite material was completely flushed out . with shim style gaskets you probably wont see the same damage because there is no composite material. I could probably post pictures of the gasket damage if need be.
,Dan

 

[Turbo1dr]

with shim style gaskets you probably wont see the same damage because there is no composite material.
,Dan

Steel shim gaskets require the heads and the block to be perfectly flat. If it's not then the steel gaskets are worse to use than the stock ones.

 

[WSLN 6]

Plug #2 was wet. Retorqued the head, made no difference. The car surges up and down at idle until the IAC gets control of it. All other plugs looked perfect, oil is clean.

 

[MIB]

Plug #2 was wet. Retorqued the head, made no difference. The car surges up and down at idle until the IAC gets control of it. All other plugs looked perfect, oil is clean.

What value did you retorque the the head too?

 

[TURBOPOWERED68]

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me too

 

[BEATAV8]

subscribing... interesting stuff.

I'm running 100 no lead and a dual nozzle SMC kit on Torco methanol. 28PSI from a 6776RH turbo and 25/23 degrees of timing. 11.1-11.3 A/F. Cometic gaskets. So far so good (several thousand street miles) but I'll be interested in seeing what it looks like when I tear it down for freshening.

 

[Grumpy]

ahhhhh...found the thread Alky isn't allowed in TSM/TSO is it :wink:
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now as far as blowing crap up... Alky and Race gas can do the same IF YOUR CAR ISN'T TUNED FOR THEM. **** happeneds racing these cars and pushing them don't want to hurt anything ??? drive it "normal" and still things go wrong .. I "look" at our cars a lot just checking stupid things ahhhhh the "net" :biggrin:

 

[MIB]

IF was FIFTH, we all would be DRUNK and IF BUT was azz we all would be Sh.....

 

[Razor]

Its always blame this or that.. bottom line your racing an engine.. and when you put a **** load of boost through a motor.. sooner or latter stuff will let go. Alky or not. I have a brand new Jeep Liberty.. I wouldnt floor this thing.. yet I take my car out and hammer on it till the cows come home.. when it breaks.. so what.. I did it.. and I go and fix it.

What if you blow the line to the fuel pressure regulator at 30 PSI boost.. get the broom and shovel. So who's fault was that The hose MFG fault.. The fuel pressure regulator MFG fault.. Buicks Fault.. No.. its your fault for having 20 year old hoses and not replacing them.. then zip tie them down.

Alcohol has more octane than C16. Look at Top Alcohol Dragsters And when injected.. you only need to replace 15-20% of your fueling to stop the detonation.. the kits can do that without issue.

Now.. it needs to be maintained.. checked.. if not.. just like every other part on your car.. dont cry if it develops an issue. Just like the Walbro in the tank.. Fuel filter.. rubber hoses.. etc.

Alky is not allowed in any of the Buick classes.. it must be taken off.. This is why its not on the cars. Well its capped off.. and there were cars with alcohol injection kits running the classes at BG this year.. just the systems were disconnected.

Hey Grumpy.. how else does Melissa's car run 10.10 on pump gas?

No majic.. be on top of your game.. if your not.. then when things go worng.. blame yourself. Is what it is.

 

[WSLN 6]

Yep no blame game here. No excuses. I have been running Directscan and the LC-1 with the correction at 11.4 afr. No knock on 19psi. I have the heads torqued to 90 ft/lbs, have never had a problem in the past with way more boost. The stroker just makes way more power than the old combo.
I will keep everyone updated,pulling the intake off tonight. We will see how fast RJC can get a headhasket to the great white north........:smile:

 

[Grumpy]

Hey Grumpy.. how else does Melissa's car run 10.10 on pump gas?

with just a "dash" of Alky

 

[Razor]

Yep no blame game here. No excuses.

Attaboy.. good luck.. hope its something simple.

 

[Ttype6]

It's very interesting to me how some of us can do some things with great success and others do the same thing with bad results. When I mentioned my map hose blowing off I wasn't pointing out any short-comings of alcohol injection or blaming anyone for anything. I mentioned it because it was that event that showed me that without alcohol I can now run 21lbs of boost and go 126 mph in the quarter with the same GM gaskets that were popping when the slightest bit of alcohol was injected. I haven't replaced the gaskets yet. This is the best experience I've had with head gaskets. No others have come close. Something bad is happening when I turn on the alcohol. I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that the alcohol is the cause. That would be as unscientific as concluding that saturated fat must be the cause of heart disease just because it is found at the site of the clauged artery. I can only say that something is going on.

 

[Ttype6]

Yep no blame game here. No excuses. I have been running Directscan and the LC-1 with the correction at 11.4 afr. No knock on 19psi. I have the heads torqued to 90 ft/lbs, have never had a problem in the past with way more boost. The stroker just makes way more power than the old combo.
I will keep everyone updated,pulling the intake off tonight. We will see how fast RJC can get a headhasket to the great white north........:smile:

If you run the same head gaskets and everything else stays the same you'll probably have the same results.

 

[Razor]

It's very interesting to me how some of us can do some things with great success and others do the same thing with bad results. When I mentioned my map hose blowing off I wasn't pointing out any short-comings of alcohol injection or blaming anyone for anything. I mentioned it because it was that event that showed me that without alcohol I can now run 21lbs of boost and go 126 mph in the quarter with the same GM gaskets that were popping when the slightest bit of alcohol was injected. I haven't replaced the gaskets yet. This is the best experience I've had with head gaskets. No others have come close. Something bad is happening when I turn on the alcohol. I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that the alcohol is the cause. That would be as unscientific as concluding that saturated fat must be the cause of heart disease just because it is found at the site of the clauged artery. I can only say that something is going on.

When you shoot alcohol.. air fuel drops. And this is where tuning comes to play. And data is needed for tuning.

Time to swap chips/computer/tuning techniques.

 

[Daniel Jost]

Ive been tuning with my kit for a while now with no luck at all it sound like it is flooding out on the top end but the 02's will stay low in the 780-800 WTF? well i guess in a year or so when i can actually afford something your kit will be coming my way, i'm sure my brother could use my kit on his Duramax.
,Dan

 

[Pronto]

There's about 25 critical parts on the car that could go south at any given moment of high boost that could cause head gasket failure. Pick one. Sooner or later one's going to crap out-with or without alky. I'll risk the alky, it's too much fun.

 

[Ttype6]

There are at least six people so far who have had or are having problems blowing head gaskets. The thing we all have in common is alcohol. As I stated earlier,I still have two blown head gaskets and can run 21 lbs of boost at 126 mph with the alcohol turned off. If I turn it on,it starts making noise at 5 lbs when the system turns on. Please understand that I am not condemming alcohol.I can't stress this enough.I know this for shure,cylider pressure rises significantly when I turn it on. The proof is the popping and the fact that it doesn't pop when I don't use the alcohol. I'd like to find a way to make my gaskets live with alcohol injection. Right now I can beat on it all day and it loves it. How many people(who suspected alcohol as a contributing factor to their blown head gaskets) have yet to blow a gasket since discontinuing the use of alcohol?

 

[Turbo1dr]

I still have two blown head gaskets and can run 21 lbs of boost at 126 mph with the alcohol turned off.

With all the fuss in the years past about the stock intake being so problematic about flowing equally to all cylinders I'd hope that EVERYONE that has alky also has a power plate. Even then, it's not guaranteed that the flow pattern of the alky spray is evenly distributed to all cylinders. Something to think about.