Phoneguy
Cometic HG stress tester
- Joined
- Aug 27, 2002
Hey buddy..............:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
Let me know what you need...
I will hook you up bro.
Bryan
Hey buddy..............:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
My car was in a accident a few years back and the body shop ended up spraying the whole driver side of my car(Insurance). Is it possible to just spray the other half? The paint on the pass side is original and looks like poop compared to the other side...I would hate to paint it and then half a wierd paint line down the middle..lol
Let me know what you need...
I will hook you up bro.
Bryan
talked to Mr. bodyman today. He says he will "seal" the doors, fenders, etc. Is that good? What is sealer? Can it be sanded like primer? Is it as good or better than primer? Thanks to everyone for their help. Oh, does the paint get wet sanded or the clear? Or both?
sealer is good you want that. you can wet sand sealer but alot of people don't. you use sealer over primer. most primers out there are primer/ sealer any way look at my slide show it show all the steps. you will see the car in the garage getting a different shade of gray thats the sealer. if you want to go all out you can put self etching primer down on the bare metal. the way it should go but no one does it is bare metal, self etching primer, primer, then sealer then basecoat, then clear coat. you only wet sand the clear coat not the base coat. if you use the stuff i told you about you dont have to clear the car. its shines in one step. you wet sand the clear if your going that way with 1500 grit then 2000 then 2500 and if you want to get a show car shine go to 3000. then buff the car. if you get a run do you know how to fix that. you most likely will get one your first time but is not a big deal. rember when you spray the car alway use a 50 percent over lap on each pass. never stop painting in the center of the pannel go all the way. if your going to wet sand all the way to 3000 put 3 coats rather than just 2. i put 4 on my car but i wet sanded between coat for a starter i would not do it like me with 4 coats. also buy wax and grease remover and a tack cloth. you dont want to get fish eyes and dust in the paint.
I would start off with 800 -1000 grit on the wet sand to get the paint flat. mikesealer is good you want that. you can wet sand sealer but alot of people don't. you use sealer over primer. most primers out there are primer/ sealer any way look at my slide show it show all the steps. you will see the car in the garage getting a different shade of gray thats the sealer. if you want to go all out you can put self etching primer down on the bare metal. the way it should go but no one does it is bare metal, self etching primer, primer, then sealer then basecoat, then clear coat. you only wet sand the clear coat not the base coat. if you use the stuff i told you about you dont have to clear the car. its shines in one step. you wet sand the clear if your going that way with 1500 grit then 2000 then 2500 and if you want to get a show car shine go to 3000. then buff the car. if you get a run do you know how to fix that. you most likely will get one your first time but is not a big deal. rember when you spray the car alway use a 50 percent over lap on each pass. never stop painting in the center of the pannel go all the way. if your going to wet sand all the way to 3000 put 3 coats rather than just 2. i put 4 on my car but i wet sanded between coat for a starter i would not do it like me with 4 coats. also buy wax and grease remover and a tack cloth. you dont want to get fish eyes and dust in the paint.
if you dont do this you can get zebra stripes.Thanks for the 50% tip. I didn't know that
You only use 800 if you have bad orange peel. It cuts too much you will have to buff the car forever to get those scratches out. Never go below 1000 on a clear coat. If you must I would use 1200. The only reason you would have to use 800 is if the paint looks like you rolled it on with a paint roller. I have done show cars; most of the cars I docome out of the gun flat that most people would be happy with. I never go below 1500 on clear unless i get a run.I would start off with 800 -1000 grit on the wet sand to get the paint flat. mike
didnot say to wet sand hard been doing bodywork25 years last time Iwas at the world of wheels 5cars were there I worked on an 1 car alone got five trophies by itself. dont like to wet sand my aA_ _ off thats the fasest way Ihave foun it leaves zero peel not saying Im right and your wrong just to guys doing things differant to gat the same effect a flawless shine .Mikeif you dont do this you can get zebra stripes.
You only use 800 if you have bad orange peel. It cuts too much you will have to buff the car forever to get those scratches out. Never go below 1000 on a clear coat. If you must I would use 1200. The only reason you would have to use 800 is if the paint looks like you rolled it on with a paint roller. I have done show cars; most of the cars I docome out of the gun flat that most people would be happy with. I never go below 1500 on clear unless i get a run.
didnot say to wet sand hard been doing bodywork25 years last time Iwas at the world of wheels 5cars were there I worked on an 1 car alone got five trophies by itself. dont like to wet sand my aA_ _ off thats the fasest way Ihave foun it leaves zero peel not saying Im right and your wrong just to guys doing things differant to gat the same effect a flawless shine .Mike
i just talked to a older guy who does body work and paints he told me thats how they did it back in the day. so your right. i just know with the newer finishes it is way different than the lacquer base paint most older people are use too. i know you get the best finish if you start with 1500 and go up to 3000. most of the time the paint is flat right out of the gun for me. so your right its who you talk to. everyone has there own way. i just dont like spend major hours buffing out heavy scratchs.didnot say to wet sand hard been doing bodywork25 years last time Iwas at the world of wheels 5cars were there I worked on an 1 car alone got five trophies by itself. dont like to wet sand my aA_ _ off thats the fasest way Ihave foun it leaves zero peel not saying Im right and your wrong just to guys doing things differant to gat the same effect a flawless shine .Mike
I talked to Mr. bodyman today. He says he will "seal" the doors, fenders, etc. Is that good? What is sealer? Can it be sanded like primer? Is it as good or better than primer? Thanks to everyone for their help. Oh, does the paint get wet sanded or the clear? Or both?
can't wait to get it back I will post pics when I get a chance if u like
Well, I intended to practice on my spare hood and trunk lid. Now I ran across a 1979 Riviera, owned by a bodyshop of all places. It is in primer and just needs paint and brake lines. No rust. The car runs, has a 350 V-8. Air Conditioning and heat work. Interior was all redone 2 months ago, new $100 steering wheel, some kind of chrome Buick rims. Price is $700! Apparently this is the first year for front wheel drive Riviera. Headed out the door now to look at it, about 25 miles from my home. Here is a pic of one I found on the internet:
1979 Buick Riviera
Would this make a good car to practice on? Maybe the owner will get me the paint at his cost, give me tips, who knows.
i just talked to a older guy who does body work and paints he told me thats how they did it back in the day. so your right. i just know with the newer finishes it is way different than the lacquer base paint most older people are use too. i know you get the best finish if you start with 1500 and go up to 3000. most of the time the paint is flat right out of the gun for me. so your right its who you talk to. everyone has there own way. i just dont like spend major hours buffing out heavy scratchs.