Creatine (Krush4)?

[Cheeseburger]

Thanks for the info so far guys.
I really do not have a problem with gaining weight (6' 215lbs), what i want is to get my waist size down and continue to get my upper body bigger.
I was told by someone that you need to pack on the weight and then sculpt your body from their...........anotherwords i would end up with a waist over 40'' doing it that way.
Is this correct?If so should i try for 230?
Also, i want the biggest gains possible but i do not want to over train, is 3 days rest on a body part too long for recovery or should i have it at 2 days?
I train to the point (for example).......its hard to lift your arms to wash your face after a workout,lol.
I put this thread here to get input from guys that have been their and done it...........hard to take advice from a skinny guy at the health store if you know what i mean!

Thanks.

 

[87grandnat]

only thing i would say is that fat and muscle are two different things. If you are talking about bulking up then getting shredded from there that is fine, but only if your not expecting to stay at the same weight because you will burn off alot of fat while doing that i.e. shredding.
this is why body builder bulk up in the off season and are totally ripped for contest, i think Ronnie's off season weight is around 315 and he gets to around 280 (i think) for contest. if you are wanted to get ripped i would suggest trying to add lean muscle mass instead of "weight" and going from there. This is alot harder as it involves a strict diet, proper training and supplement use, but it can be done.

oh 3 days is fine for a body part, especially on parts like chest. You might even want to try working two to three parts a day once a week with abs every day as they recover alot faster. If doing this you want to go very heavy weight (may even want a spotter) and low reps, a good routine would be 3 sets of 8 reps then a fourth to failure. this is good for bulking up. As someone wanting to get shredded would do 4 sets of 10 to 14 with lighter weight.

 

[GN138]

I'm a Cutler fan myself. He's fun to be around and is hilarious! I've met him a few times, he comes to Denver quite often.

He looked HORRIBLE at the Olympia. He has gotten bigger but was way watery and Coleman had no trouble taking 1st.

Ronnie was 290 or more at this years Olympia (as it is rumored) and Jay was supposedly 285 or more.

If you've ever seen Ronnie up close in person you can attest to the fact that he has muscles that no other BB'er on earth has.

CHEESEBURGER: They way I train people is this: You either are trying to lose fat or gain muscle. It's very hard and less productive to try to do both at the same time. The more muscle you have the higher your metabolism can go. When I train people, if they are overweight, I usually take them down the fat loss path first. The average beginner will lose a lot of fat and gain a bit of muscle just from working with weights and increasing their protein intake. I don't suggest that they get "ripped" as that's not needed unless you're doing a contest. I usually try to get them down to a lower bodyfat (10-15%, which is far lower than the average american male). From there, changes to their diet can show me more. If they're way overweight it's hard to tell if anything is going on muscle-wise as you can't see it.

My best advice to you would be for you to head to www.musclemayhem.com to the forums there and try to read up at a lot of different sites. A lot of people advocate www.bodybuilding.com but most of the advice given there is incorrect and most of the people handing out advice there are 16 year old kids.

I lift each body part once per week, I train in the 8 reps range and do between 3-6 sets per body part. I like to lift with heavier weight, less volume. Also, keep a small notebook with you at the gym. Record how many sets and reps you do and how much weight you do as well. Every week look back on what you did and try to get either more reps or use more weight. This progressive overloading is what will keep you getting stronger every week. The stronger you get the more muscle you carry (if diet is correct).

 

[87grandnat]

i have never met Cutler before but would like to as he is one of my favs, I agree with the fact of Ronnies physic it is truly amayzing, they have a posture in Metroflex of him doing squats, and i swear you can see every figgin muscle in his body (even ones i didnt think we had)

i totally agree with the notebook thing it is good to record your progress, plus i find it very motivational to go back and see gains that you have made.

My comment about getting ripped and shredded are only pertaning to people with those goals as i am currently about 186 and 8 percent body fat, and am going for a cut look, i was asked the first time i worked out at the Met with my shirt off to start putting on some weight and start competing by Brian, but i have never really seen myself getting that big, my goal is to get to about 200 while keeping the ripped look (girls love it) and see how i am from there.

Joshua

 

[ssleeper94]

www.bodybuilding.com has all answers you want and all the products you need. Their is one brand of creatine that is now FDA approved, TKE The Kutting Edge.
I've taken creatine for the last year on and off, starting back up this week. I've never had a problem with it, just make sure your hydrated and buy good products. You get what you pay for. I use AST products thier micronized Glutamine and micronized Creatine. Also protien has a big part in building muscle. ON-Whey tastes good and fairly cheap.

 

[JOHNZAZA]

Just go on the sauce, and gain all the weight you need.

Forget this creatine bull-hit.