Dies when put in any gear but rev and OD

[JOSH42180]

Hey guys, I am new here, I frequent the monte ss site quite a bit and just found yours. I have a problem that I wanted to run by you guys.

I am having some issues with my car. If I have the selector in OD and downshift to any other gear, it dies. Same thing at idle, if I put it in 1-d, it dies, but if I put it in OD, it is fine. This one has me lost. Anyone have any ideas what would cause this?

A little background. It is an 88 monte ls with a 305 and 66k miles on it. It has the 200 trans, and I just had the trans rebuilt by some moron that said everything was normal when I took the car back to him because it was shifting way to soon, went into 2nd at 5-7mph. Adjusted the TV cable so that it did not do this. Seems that everything was fine. Melted the wire for the stock tach that my car did not come with, shorted out on the manifold and blew my coil. Even before this, it was stumbeling when I would wind it out, and at low acceleration also. Does this sound like it is related to my above issue, maybe some linkage adjustments needed?

Thanks for your input guys.

Josh

 

[lowellp]

Unplug the electrical connection from the transmission, drive the car and see if it still does it. If this fixes the problem there is something wrong with the wiring.
Use TCI's part number 376600 should fix the problem.

 

[chris718]

does it feel like a stick car in gear that you forgot to push the clutch in at a light and it stalls?Hydraulically the lock up valve isnt fed signal oil until the 1/2 shift valve opens and it allows the converter clutch valve end to be fed.So different detent positions in first gear cant really do anything unless the lock up solenoid end is being fed from a leak in the overrun clutch when you move the shift lever and the solenoid is bad/plugged.The chances of this happening are very slim.Does this happen with the car not moving or after a 1/2 upshift?

 

[chris718]

Tci "they Copied It"

 

[charlief1]

I don't know who this lowellp guy is but I do know who chris718 is so please listen to him. If you look at the top where our names are displayed, look to the right of the screen and see the post count. Also look at the sig to see what the guy does. This gives you a little more info on the person responding. Chris makes hard parts and can tell you more about the 2004r than most tranny guys so if he tells you something listen to him. A few others on the board as well like dusty, bison, and I can't remember them all. Hope this helps.

 

[chris718]

Charlie,I feed the family with a percentage of what we make for the 2004r crowd.Helping out and answering questions and coming up with real world solutions is how we give back.Thanks.

 

[JOSH42180]

Unplug the electrical connection from the transmission, drive the car and see if it still does it. If this fixes the problem there is something wrong with the wiring.
Use TCI's part number 376600 should fix the problem.

unpluged the lockup and it still did the ame thing.

 

[JOSH42180]

does it feel like a stick car in gear that you forgot to push the clutch in at a light and it stalls?Hydraulically the lock up valve isnt fed signal oil until the 1/2 shift valve opens and it allows the converter clutch valve end to be fed.So different detent positions in first gear cant really do anything unless the lock up solenoid end is being fed from a leak in the overrun clutch when you move the shift lever and the solenoid is bad/plugged.The chances of this happening are very slim.Does this happen with the car not moving or after a 1/2 upshift?

No it just dies, rather I am moving or parked. I just tried a few things and noticed that I can get it to go in 1t gear with out killing it if I wiggle the move the shifter to one side of gear 1, the other side kills it though. I have about 400 miles on the rebuild, but as I said the guy was a moron, first the shop left my TV cable off when I picked it up, then he told me it was normal for it to shift into second at 5-7mph. I then adjusted the TV cable after finding a writeup on this site and realizing it was not just a kick down cable.

It ran fine for a while until I decided to adjust the TV cable again because the shifts were pretty stiff. I drove it around for a while and it was choking when I would wind it out, then it just died. This is when I found the wire for the tach that my car did not even come with melted to the manifold. Replaced the coil and it ran again. Now it dies when I put it in certain gears and still chokes when I wind it out.

I should ad that when I read the write up on the TV cable, I misunderstood it and pulled pretty hard on the cable instead of the stop. If I pulled to hard, is it possible that I bend something inside the trans and that is causing this? I tend not to think so since it was shifting and running fine after I did this until I decided to try to adjust it again since my shifts were pretty hard.

Would a bad neutral safety switch cause a problem like this? Does killing it when I put it into certain gears sound like a tranny or linkage problem, or am I barking up the wrong tree?

Sorry about the long post thanks again,

Josh

 

[charlief1]

I'm sure Chris will have a better idea of where you need to look but it really does sound like you have a short somewhere. You need to check the harness to see if it got damaged by the guys that did the tranny.