Does more timing + more octane = more power?

[KEVINS]

I currently run 110 oct with 28* of timing in my ME with no KR @ 23psi.
I may have the oportunity to change the timing in my ME from 28* to 30* or 32*. If I run 114/116 oct with this added timing will the extra timing add more power??

ks

 

[GNandGS]

Thats a great big 'ol "depends" and I dont mean the diaper. My guess would be "no" but if you still have that stock turbo its worth a shot... can you change it back?

S

 

[KEVINS]

I have talked to a few people today and they agree that the stock turbo may like 32* with C16 much better. I am also talking with Steve Y to see what he can do.. I'm pretty sure it's going to work at least some..

ks

 

[Steve Wood]

Steve has made some MEs with several timing options up in that range for stock turbos with very good success in the past.

 

[GNandGS]

Yeah stock turbo being the key (wasnt sure if thats what you had)... we have actually run higher but the gains were not there for US so...

S

 

[tim87tr]

Kevins, I am looking at the same issue. Installing my trans plus tonight. Do you use this?

I wanted to try more timing with higher octane but was unsure if the fuel curve in a race chip was so much different that I should not just adjust timing on my 93 extender chip with the 110 octane. Meaning I should just get the race chip for the track. I wanted to increase the timing using the SMC kit when I get that also.

I thought that it would be ok to do this since the car is in PE mode at WOT and I could adjust the timing up at above 3500 rpm only, with the trans +. But, I know just enough about the cars to be dangerous with ideas .

 

[KEVINS]

No, I don't have the T+. Still stock MAF... I just spoke with Steve and I'm going to send in my ME and have him giver a tuneup

I would LOVE to experiment with different timing myself but that would be like giving me a fuse and a match

I have very little restraint when racing my car as some prolly know..

ks

 

[Jimn8or]

When I had the stocker turbo and red-stripes, the 30° ME chip was the best for sure. I ran C-16 and 22lbs boost.
HTH
Jim

 

[KEVINS]

What kinda MPH were you able to run? I was runing 108.5 with a best of 109 w/o the converter locked up. So I'm guessing locking it would be 110-111 and MAYBE the chip timing another 2+..
I am hoping to run 113-114 which is stretching it A LOT but ya hafta have a goal..It's going to need a 1.5x 60' to do it though but I can get the suspension tuned to do that..

I know, I know but it sounds good on paper....

ks