So ia hve been looking for a GN for the last couple a years off and on. And this weekend has all but proven my point that it seems that I never will get a real one without getting ripped off on the price OR, paying still as lot of money and it being a POS that needs work, or just buying a clone and tell everyone its a real one. And judging by how good some of these clones look like I bet a lot of people would not know the difference....
So this weekend I won a GN on ebay and durning the process I asked for various pictures of certain things knowing the g-bodys and the rust issues they incure over the years and the areas that are areas of concern on GN's etc. It seemed the guy was a little careful on the angles before taking and sending.
So I bud and won, YAYYYA for me.... right!..... NO. SO I asked for pics of the underside of the car and close ups of the paint etc.
I drove 10 hours to get to the car and before handing over 20k for a 32k mile "Orginal" minus a few part upgrades I inspect the car. I took about 30-45 mins to go over everything @ 5am with high powered LED flashlights and with my girl to have an honest eye compare with an experienced eye (ME) and see if she came up with matching issues withoiut telling her where to look.
SO before I get there I am told I will not find a nicer GN around at this mileage or I will pay 29+ AND UP IF IM looking for car that I can eat off of.....
SO I found white chips on the door, and the rocker panel, and the lower b pillar that houses the courtesy glass. The guy told me that are not chips that its rock guard. I stated rock guard is NOT white marks half way up the door etc. SO I can see he was getting upset as I assumed he thought I was some punk kid looking to just hand over a stack of cash and load this GN and go home. SO then his buddy comes over and states that its residue from the gravel and it rained, and that it will just wipe off...... OK so I call his bluff and ask him why would you leave a MINT GN outside in the rain after it was won 4 days ago and after you told me this never saw RAIN snow etc and it IS ALWAYS housed in the garage while he is trying to sell it. He has 4 majors garages etc. Im sure you see my point thus far. SO I asked him to wipe it off and hes scrubbing so hard its starting to scratch the paint. I then show him with my finger nail that my nail is going into the paint because its not just residue ontop of the paint he then gets really pissed and said it was in the pix before I bid and won. I then show him that it wasnt and that he was WRONG, so Then they both ask why I came down to nit pick the car if I didnt have the intention on buying that car.
I told them I had EVERY intention on buying what was advertised and if anyone is spending 20k+ on a 1987 car im sure they and you would look it over very well....correct?
So i then tell him there are issues that scare me away from this car....He replies LIKE WHAT...
WELL, the paint issue we just went over, the inner passenger side t-top trim is broken and missing, under the trunk rain sill its rusted all over, underneath the car has rust pretty much on every part under there, not rot, but excess surface rust , stock exhaust was ripped out and a ultra Flow system installed with a cat delete plate inserted (wasnt listed in the ad), paint on the front seem of the hood was chipping from the old paint job im guessing, bubbled glue around the window im guessing from a new windshield install, rims had pitted rust around the black part the mates to the chrome, rear rotors look like they where rusting (I thought that where aluminum), rust starting on the t-top rain sill both sides, rear bumper has a after market part number stamped on it/.....(LOL), NOw the biggest issue......passenger side b pillar looked like the body mud was coming through the paint as the was a swirl or mud the looked like a mashed up tootide roll coming through and the blotch was cracking while the other areas looking like a mirror lolol. I pointed this out and he goes "IT HAS A CLEAN car fax wanna see..... I said yes..... he then says its only ink on a paper that they are BS anyways as there are ways around the milage and anything listed on there. he then goes and tells me a car be be in a wreck 100000000 times and as long as it isnt reported it will apear clean on the report,.
So this weekend I won a GN on ebay and durning the process I asked for various pictures of certain things knowing the g-bodys and the rust issues they incure over the years and the areas that are areas of concern on GN's etc. It seemed the guy was a little careful on the angles before taking and sending.
So I bud and won, YAYYYA for me.... right!..... NO. SO I asked for pics of the underside of the car and close ups of the paint etc.
I drove 10 hours to get to the car and before handing over 20k for a 32k mile "Orginal" minus a few part upgrades I inspect the car. I took about 30-45 mins to go over everything @ 5am with high powered LED flashlights and with my girl to have an honest eye compare with an experienced eye (ME) and see if she came up with matching issues withoiut telling her where to look.
SO before I get there I am told I will not find a nicer GN around at this mileage or I will pay 29+ AND UP IF IM looking for car that I can eat off of.....
SO I found white chips on the door, and the rocker panel, and the lower b pillar that houses the courtesy glass. The guy told me that are not chips that its rock guard. I stated rock guard is NOT white marks half way up the door etc. SO I can see he was getting upset as I assumed he thought I was some punk kid looking to just hand over a stack of cash and load this GN and go home. SO then his buddy comes over and states that its residue from the gravel and it rained, and that it will just wipe off...... OK so I call his bluff and ask him why would you leave a MINT GN outside in the rain after it was won 4 days ago and after you told me this never saw RAIN snow etc and it IS ALWAYS housed in the garage while he is trying to sell it. He has 4 majors garages etc. Im sure you see my point thus far. SO I asked him to wipe it off and hes scrubbing so hard its starting to scratch the paint. I then show him with my finger nail that my nail is going into the paint because its not just residue ontop of the paint he then gets really pissed and said it was in the pix before I bid and won. I then show him that it wasnt and that he was WRONG, so Then they both ask why I came down to nit pick the car if I didnt have the intention on buying that car.
I told them I had EVERY intention on buying what was advertised and if anyone is spending 20k+ on a 1987 car im sure they and you would look it over very well....correct?
So i then tell him there are issues that scare me away from this car....He replies LIKE WHAT...
WELL, the paint issue we just went over, the inner passenger side t-top trim is broken and missing, under the trunk rain sill its rusted all over, underneath the car has rust pretty much on every part under there, not rot, but excess surface rust , stock exhaust was ripped out and a ultra Flow system installed with a cat delete plate inserted (wasnt listed in the ad), paint on the front seem of the hood was chipping from the old paint job im guessing, bubbled glue around the window im guessing from a new windshield install, rims had pitted rust around the black part the mates to the chrome, rear rotors look like they where rusting (I thought that where aluminum), rust starting on the t-top rain sill both sides, rear bumper has a after market part number stamped on it/.....(LOL), NOw the biggest issue......passenger side b pillar looked like the body mud was coming through the paint as the was a swirl or mud the looked like a mashed up tootide roll coming through and the blotch was cracking while the other areas looking like a mirror lolol. I pointed this out and he goes "IT HAS A CLEAN car fax wanna see..... I said yes..... he then says its only ink on a paper that they are BS anyways as there are ways around the milage and anything listed on there. he then goes and tells me a car be be in a wreck 100000000 times and as long as it isnt reported it will apear clean on the report,.
. Good Luck
