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I bought a car this week from a board member. It is a highly modified car. He did not know much about the car. Bweaver on this board, nicest guy I ever talked to, knew more about it than him, he used to own car. The following was listed on e-bay that is all the guy knew about the car.
"This is a proven 10 second car..has great street manners.
Girdled 109 block.steel main caps,J&E pistons,.020",Hyd roller cam,internally balanced,BHJ balancer,JW wheel flexplate,C&C ported aluminum GN1 heads and intake,poston HPC coated headers,72# injectors,Max Effort-R fuel injection,PT-72 turbo,full 3" exhaust,,ESP front mount intercooler,victory transmissions 200r4,9" 3800 stall converter,spool,33 spline moser axles,c-clip eliminators,15 gallon fuel cell,-10 feed,-6 return,aeromotive fuel pump,paxton filter,accufab regulator,carbon fiber bumpers and deck lid,fiberglass hood(needs painted),scanmaster,RJC egt gauge, Innovate wideband,8-point cage thru floor to the frame."
I am fairly knew to modifiying these cars but know my way around enough to know what going on. We got car home and it would barely start and was running VERY RICH. There was 93 oct fuel in car and the MAX was on 6. Would have to hold at WOT to get to start. The boost was all the way down, cut off. Finally car started and cracked boost open just a little and went couple of miles down road. Car was stumbling a little but cleared up. Turned boost up a little more and hit one time. Hoses blowed off of everything. PVC blew out , Up pipe blowed off of T/B. Brought car in put hoses back on ran pretty good did a quick hit and boy was it scary, this thing just lit. Anyway now the car won't start. It has a battery cutoff switch, while trying to reset the MAX acceidently hit switch and the thing fired right up and ran perfect. DID NOT TOUCH just cut off and locked door. Went to crank today and same thing NO START. Here is what I know is going on
1. Reset MAX, even tried another ECM
2. Hit switch C/E light comes on. pump comes on F/P jumps to 38.
3. Pumps cuts off F/P drops immediatley to 0
4. Is NOT getting fire. Tried to jump spark NOTHING
5. F/P stays at 0 unless cut off and hit switch then same thing up to 38 drops back 0, comes on for normal 2 seconds
6. Straight wired pump f/p stays up but still no spark or crank
7. All scan numbers looked good except 02's never over 300
8. Oil Pressure at 60 till warm up then drops to 20 at warm idle is that right?
9. Car ran up to 205 degrees, has a very small too small radiator.
10. No oil cooling system. At all.
I think it is in the programming of the MAX but reset. However I do not know enough about the system to know. I have e-mailed them yesterday, not rushing them, just have not heard back.
There are several things on this car that are just inadequate.
The fuel cell came out of a circle track car and the line is coming out of top no breathing system and old side line duct taped up.
This is just the begining of the "RIGGING" on this car. I think it is all very fixable but need it to start first.
The other big problem is a little blowback coming out of valve cover breathers causing a little drip. The breathers are VERY SMALL not right size. When take breathers off a small amount of white smoke blows out. But no leaks no water in oil and no leaks anywhere else, doesnt appear anything coming out of tail pipe. I was wondering if normal with this type of RACE motor or maybe return holes stopped up car sat a long time I think. I just praying nothing internal. THe car has the GN1 aluminum heads and valve covers I do not think valve covers on correctly and used a cork gasket, should not it be rubber? But very worried about this blowback, and the NO START.
It has a external wastegate, I know needed with MAX, but do not know what kind, it is red and blue and mounted on crossover pipe, can anyone identify by that description. Also the boost contorller is a black valve system that you pull up a knob to adust and push back to set, it is just laying on top of the motor. What boost controller is that?
Also the RJC EGT is unhooked can tell it was mounted with a fitting but broke off just laying on heads. Where does that supposed to be mounted?
Supposedly this car ran 10.50 with a completley STOCK SUSPENSION and still stock (till next week). That was before GN1 heads too. What do you think car will do?
I know I stepped up to quickly from stock T/R's to this but, I was going to spend more on bolt ons for another car to run 11 than I paid for the whole W-E4 car.
Please don't blast me for being a newbie I just need some help. Please give any suggestions and help on tuning this thing.
"This is a proven 10 second car..has great street manners.
Girdled 109 block.steel main caps,J&E pistons,.020",Hyd roller cam,internally balanced,BHJ balancer,JW wheel flexplate,C&C ported aluminum GN1 heads and intake,poston HPC coated headers,72# injectors,Max Effort-R fuel injection,PT-72 turbo,full 3" exhaust,,ESP front mount intercooler,victory transmissions 200r4,9" 3800 stall converter,spool,33 spline moser axles,c-clip eliminators,15 gallon fuel cell,-10 feed,-6 return,aeromotive fuel pump,paxton filter,accufab regulator,carbon fiber bumpers and deck lid,fiberglass hood(needs painted),scanmaster,RJC egt gauge, Innovate wideband,8-point cage thru floor to the frame."
I am fairly knew to modifiying these cars but know my way around enough to know what going on. We got car home and it would barely start and was running VERY RICH. There was 93 oct fuel in car and the MAX was on 6. Would have to hold at WOT to get to start. The boost was all the way down, cut off. Finally car started and cracked boost open just a little and went couple of miles down road. Car was stumbling a little but cleared up. Turned boost up a little more and hit one time. Hoses blowed off of everything. PVC blew out , Up pipe blowed off of T/B. Brought car in put hoses back on ran pretty good did a quick hit and boy was it scary, this thing just lit. Anyway now the car won't start. It has a battery cutoff switch, while trying to reset the MAX acceidently hit switch and the thing fired right up and ran perfect. DID NOT TOUCH just cut off and locked door. Went to crank today and same thing NO START. Here is what I know is going on
1. Reset MAX, even tried another ECM
2. Hit switch C/E light comes on. pump comes on F/P jumps to 38.
3. Pumps cuts off F/P drops immediatley to 0
4. Is NOT getting fire. Tried to jump spark NOTHING
5. F/P stays at 0 unless cut off and hit switch then same thing up to 38 drops back 0, comes on for normal 2 seconds
6. Straight wired pump f/p stays up but still no spark or crank
7. All scan numbers looked good except 02's never over 300
8. Oil Pressure at 60 till warm up then drops to 20 at warm idle is that right?
9. Car ran up to 205 degrees, has a very small too small radiator.
10. No oil cooling system. At all.
I think it is in the programming of the MAX but reset. However I do not know enough about the system to know. I have e-mailed them yesterday, not rushing them, just have not heard back.
There are several things on this car that are just inadequate.
The fuel cell came out of a circle track car and the line is coming out of top no breathing system and old side line duct taped up.
This is just the begining of the "RIGGING" on this car. I think it is all very fixable but need it to start first.
The other big problem is a little blowback coming out of valve cover breathers causing a little drip. The breathers are VERY SMALL not right size. When take breathers off a small amount of white smoke blows out. But no leaks no water in oil and no leaks anywhere else, doesnt appear anything coming out of tail pipe. I was wondering if normal with this type of RACE motor or maybe return holes stopped up car sat a long time I think. I just praying nothing internal. THe car has the GN1 aluminum heads and valve covers I do not think valve covers on correctly and used a cork gasket, should not it be rubber? But very worried about this blowback, and the NO START.
It has a external wastegate, I know needed with MAX, but do not know what kind, it is red and blue and mounted on crossover pipe, can anyone identify by that description. Also the boost contorller is a black valve system that you pull up a knob to adust and push back to set, it is just laying on top of the motor. What boost controller is that?
Also the RJC EGT is unhooked can tell it was mounted with a fitting but broke off just laying on heads. Where does that supposed to be mounted?
Supposedly this car ran 10.50 with a completley STOCK SUSPENSION and still stock (till next week). That was before GN1 heads too. What do you think car will do?
I know I stepped up to quickly from stock T/R's to this but, I was going to spend more on bolt ons for another car to run 11 than I paid for the whole W-E4 car.
Please don't blast me for being a newbie I just need some help. Please give any suggestions and help on tuning this thing.
I hope this solve your problem, otherwise, I dunno. Good luck.
- Ray
