Help, Progressive Alky Kit...

[Squid4life]

I think i found the problem, the kit is working but not under boost i think so it most be the map sensor, i have GNX gauges so i have to do some new wiring.
Can you explain and maybe show me some pics off the TPS switch,
There are wires on the map contact now, should i cut all the old wires on the contact and start whit new from the TPS switch?

Thanks!! / Jakob

If the alky is spraying with the test button, but not coming on at boost, then yes, you have an issue with the MAP sensor wiring. Don't just cut the wires and start over though. Just tap into the GREEN wire at the MAP sensor, or under the dash behind the glove box, or behind the dash cluster/gauges. The green wire runs to the alky kit and triggers the system to spray at boost. Don't worry about the TPS switch if the car is running and it is set at .44 volts at idle, 4.6ish at WOT.

 

[HEATSEEKER]

If the alky is spraying with the test button, but not coming on at boost, then yes, you have an issue with the MAP sensor wiring. Don't just cut the wires and start over though. Just tap into the GREEN wire at the MAP sensor, or under the dash behind the glove box, or behind the dash cluster/gauges. The green wire runs to the alky kit and triggers the system to spray at boost. Don't worry about the TPS switch if the car is running and it is set at .44 volts at idle, 4.6ish at WOT.

I have tap into the green wire on the map sensor,
it was a green wire on the map sensor already, should i conect all tre together? how would i now that is spraying when i gott boost? the car still knocks even when i turn the knob all the way to the right...??

 

[BRAD_PADGETT]

Do you have a copy of of the wiring diagram? I have one if you need it faxed over. Check the volts at the MAP sensor green wire. I believe it needs to be at least 1.6 volts.

 

[Razor]

I have tap into the green wire on the map sensor,
it was a green wire on the map sensor already, should i conect all tre together? how would i now that is spraying when i gott boost? the car still knocks even when i turn the knob all the way to the right...??

MAP sensor needs 5 volts DC on gray colored wire. Ground on Black colored wire. Green colored wire connect to PAC green colored wire.

The Gray colored wire on your TPS(Throttle Position Sensor) has 5 volts.

When you put the car into boost, at 5 PSI boost, the system will activate. If it doesnt, check your MAP connections. And make sure your MAP has a hose with boost pressure on its port(nipple).

If the system does not activate, you will get knock.

Use a digital voltmeter to confirm when the Ignition is on, you have 1.6 volts on the green colored wire.

 

[HEATSEEKER]

Do you have a copy of of the wiring diagram? I have one if you need it faxed over. Check the volts at the MAP sensor green wire. I believe it needs to be at least 1.6 volts.

I have one, thanks! Jakob

 

[HEATSEEKER]

MAP sensor needs 5 volts DC on gray colored wire. Ground on Black colored wire. Green colored wire connect to PAC green colored wire.

The Gray colored wire on your TPS(Throttle Position Sensor) has 5 volts.

When you put the car into boost, at 5 PSI boost, the system will activate. If it doesnt, check your MAP connections. And make sure your MAP has a hose with boost pressure on its port(nipple).

If the system does not activate, you will get knock.

Use a digital voltmeter to confirm when the Ignition is on, you have 1.6 volts on the green colored wire.

I don´t have a hose to the map sensor, i got a black electric box under the filter instead, some speciall bypas...

 

[Razor]

I don´t have a hose to the map sensor, i got a black electric box under the filter instead, some speciall bypas...

MAP sensor = Manifold Air Pressure
MAF=Mass Air Flow

These are different sensors.

MAF is located front of engine drivers side.

MAP is located behind coolant tank on passenger fender. It is held in with 2 screws.

The hose that connects to the MAP is a metal tube that comes from the top of your throttle body. That tube runs down the passenger side of your intake plenum. It is held down by the rear bolt of your plenum.

Give your MAP sensor vacuum/boost signal by adding a hose from the metal tube to the MAP sensor.

AND will you please obtain a voltmeter and confirm electrical connection to the MAP sensor. We have told you in many replies to check for 1.6 volts.. please reply.

 

[HEATSEEKER]

MAP sensor = Manifold Air Pressure
MAF=Mass Air Flow

These are different sensors.

MAF is located front of engine drivers side.

MAP is located behind coolant tank on passenger fender. It is held in with 2 screws.

The hose that connects to the MAP is a metal tube that comes from the top of your throttle body. That tube runs down the passenger side of your intake plenum. It is held down by the rear bolt of your plenum.

Give your MAP sensor vacuum/boost signal by adding a hose from the metal tube to the MAP sensor.

AND will you please obtain a voltmeter and confirm electrical connection to the MAP sensor. We have told you in many replies to check for 1.6 volts.. please reply.

Sorry! I have 1.6 volts now, i found the TPS switch and got 5 volt and ground from that switch so that is OK now, now i just ned help whit the hose to the map, witch metal tube? can you please point it out on my pics.
Do i need to conect the diodes assembly to get the kit to work?
Can i hit the gas and then hold the test button down, are that the same as the signal comming(just a test) from the map sensor(the flo)?
When i hold the test button and flor it i still gott knocks.

Her are som pics off the installation and that black box under the filter.

The black box under the filter.


TPS Switch i hope :biggrin:


The map sensor.


Pump.


Pump.


Hoses.


The engine.


I fel so stupid it´s hard when i don´t understand al the tecnical terms...

 

[Razor]

I'll say it slowwww

Passenger side of engine, follow the tube coming from Throttle Body Vacuum block. There are two tubes, one is for PCV valve, the other is used for MAP.

Take picture passenger side of engine by the Ignition coil pack. Metal tube there. About 6mm diameter. Connect hose from metal tube to MAP sensor.



You will knock until you connect hose.

 

[HEATSEEKER]

I'll say it slowwww

Passenger side of engine, follow the tube coming from Throttle Body Vacuum block. There are two tubes, one is for PCV valve, the other is used for MAP.

Take picture passenger side of engine by the Ignition coil pack. Metal tube there. About 6mm diameter. Connect hose from metal tube to MAP sensor.



You will knock until you connect hose.

Hello again :redface:

So i will conect the vacuum map hose to the metal tub?
There are one there already(look pictures), should i conect all 3 together ( T cros)
Pics:


Do you now what the hose on the metal tube is for now?
Two vacuum hoses is coming from inside(I think) the car, one goes to the metal tube and the other to the otherside off the engine, se pictures.





This is a picture off the other tube from the vacuum block, the vacuum hose that is there now is going to my boost gauge, should i do something whit that boost gauge hose??
Pics:

The engine from the passenger side:


Thanks!!/ Jakob

 

[Razor]

Hello again :redface:

So i will conect the vacuum map hose to the metal tub?
There are one there already(look pictures), should i conect all 3 together ( T cros)
Pics:

This is a picture off the other tube from the vacuum block, the vacuum hose that is there now is going to my boost gauge, should i do something whit that boost gauge hose??
Pics:



Thanks!!/ Jakob

should i conect all 3 together .. YES YES YES YES

MAP sensor= Electronic Boost Guage

 

[HEATSEEKER]

should i conect all 3 together .. YES YES YES YES

MAP sensor= Electronic Boost Guage

Ok, tomorrow i will conect all 3 togheter from the metal tube.
What did you said about the other tube from the vacuum block, should i do something whit that hose that goes to the boost gauge?

 

[Razor]

What did you said about the other tube from the vacuum block, should i do something whit that hose that goes to the boost gauge?

should i conect all 3 together .. YES YES YES YES

Connect all three together.. Please Please Please..

 

[Razor]

Please hire English Translator

 

[HEATSEEKER]

Please hire English Translator

He he he... I spent all my money on the alky kit

I still don´t understand please explain exactly what to do...

There are one vacum hose in the metal tub already, so if i cutt this i gett to ends, then i cutt the hose to the boost gauge then i gott to mor ends, and finaly the vacuum hose from the map sensor make it five ends should i conect all five ends??

Thanks!!/ Jakob

 

[Razor]

Metal tube = 1 end
Boost guage hose= 1 end
Map hose = 1 end.

Put all three together..

Spend money on Interpreter

 

[HEATSEEKER]

Metal tube = 1 end
Boost guage hose= 1 end
Map hose = 1 end.

Put all three together..

Spend money on Interpreter

I think we missunderstand each other all the time....

I know what you men but not exactly, i will try again to explain what i mean and what i don´t get.

If i cut the vacumm hose(see picture) that goes to the metal tube it will be two ends right?
One end goes in to the car and one end goes in in the metal tube, yes?
I cant plug the end that goes in the car because that vacuum hose maybe goes to something importent that i nead, and i can´t plug the vacuum end that goes to the metal tube, becuse you said that hose goes to the map sensor.
So there is two ends, what to do whit them, please explain easy for me??
http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/3444/11414238bk.jpg

Now the second hose from the vacum block( se picture)
If i cut that vacum hose that will be two ends, right?
One goes to my boost gauge in my dass and i need that one so i can´t plug that one, and the other end goes upp to the vacuum block, what to do whit does ends, please explain easy for me??
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6707/11414222ro.jpg


The last vacuum hose end from the map sensor needs vaccum to work correctly,
i understand that, but how will i conect all the 5 vacuum ends without plugging the boost gauge, vacuum block, metal tube... and so one....
Pleeeease explain so a baby can get it.... :wink: :biggrin:
I hope you now what i mean whit 5 vacuum ends??

Thanks!!!!!! / Jakob

 

[Razor]

I'm done, since you cannot connect a simple hose to a map sensor. :frown:

Contact the vendor who sold you the system see if he can help you install it.

Or..

Take vehicle to qualified shop and have them install system properly. If you cannot install a hose to a map sensor.. I can't wait for the tuning questions. Especially the chip.

Installation requires mechanical ability. And ability to understand ENGLISH.

Sorry.

If someone else wants to step in...

 

[BRAD_PADGETT]

Julio- I have been following this thread I have to give you alot of respect for finalling terminating an idiot( I do this in my business). You can't please everybody and this guy needs to sell the car because he is clueless. You have not heard from me for awhile because I am learning tuning methods (all from this website-especiallyTENRIGHT)in order to get where I need to be. I am doing my homework now and will only contact you when necessary. I need to really understand what is going on before I waste your time. The resistor you sent me works great!. Keep up the good work. Brad

 

[Squid4life]

I kinda feel bad because I have been "the idiot" while purchasing car parts when I was overseas.

Here is a pic. This is the easiest way to do it. Normally you'd have the vacuum line running from the hard line (blue "1") to the MAP, (not shown in picture). All you do is use a plastic "tee" IN LINE as a splice, and run that extra part to the boost gauge. Hope this helps.