Holy Toledo! That was worth the money

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WOW! Had a professional tune and the car is stinking amazing. Didnt think I would like it more than I did. Was asking on the board what Turbo I had and could not tell by pictures and it is a TE-44 and not stock. The smoking was not the turbo, oil in the intercooler and some in the exhaust housings. After a TT chip install, new pugs (gapped correctly), new wires, new coil pack, Crank Sensor, cam sensor, water pump, repaired DS header, and a whole lot of stuff that the previous owner did wrong plus the professional tune and the car busts the tires loose at a 40 roll now. That was the best money I have spend. Thanks Bruce in Roseville!
 
When they're running right, it's amazing...

...but when somethings amiss, you'll knock yourself unconscious banging your head against the wall trying to figure these cars out.
 
Thanks Humble. Funny how I knew it wasnt perfect before, rough idle, a little smoke, cracked header but it always started and drove but I never really WOT it because I wasnt sure. But I really didnt expect this much of a difference. Hopefully I have everything, from a tune prospective (still have 1-2nd shift issue) good and I can start with a clean slate knowing what was done to get it to run like this. Taking it to a GN specialist was the right decision.
 
Yeah bruce is the man. May be a lil slow but the results are worth the wait. Don't ask me how I know lol ;).
 
Check your blm on a scan tool and make sure there are no vacuum leaks. Should be around 128.
 
I'm in Michigan also and have heard good things about him. Was wondering about how much did he charge to tune your car? Looking to have mines tuned by a pro next spring after all my parts go on.
 
Good sensors and a good tune are key! It's a never ending battle to keep it all in order if you want to drive it regularly and race it at all. The nail was hit on the head though, these cars are amazing when they are all sorted out. Btw, my TE44 took out my tranny with the dreaded slow 1-2 shift. Have fun! More tranny begs for more turbo, and so on, etc.
 
Glad to hear about your GN! It's always best to take your time and do everything right instead of rushing and making mistakes, especially with forced induction cars. The results speak for themselves.
 
84 t type, he spent hours on this car getting it just right. Previous owner had vacuum lines were there should not have been vacuum lines, hoses to turbo wrong. Boost set too high. Tuner got all that fixed and it was doing well then had bucking on highway. Had to replace crank sensor. Then went out for another tune and I had boost creep between 16 climbing to 19. He had to fix the wastegate hole to keep it at 17 lbs. I had about 225 in parts and 600 in labor. I had some welds broken on the exhaust, some switch issues with the digital dash and dome lighting so I would say my labor on this car was on the high side because the previous owner had a lot wrong. I would assume much less for just a drive and tune. The parts included Coil pack, crank sensor, water pump, plugs and wires.

WE4 Mateo. That is interesting about the turbo and the trans. The tuner stated the problem is the servo and the drum. He could have fixed it but I had the damn thing rebuilt in May so its under warranty. Gonna deal with that this week.

Lturbo6, where abouts in Westland are you? I am in livonia at Merriman and Plymouth area.
 
WE4 Mateo. That is interesting about the turbo and the trans. The tuner stated the problem is the servo and the drum. He could have fixed it but I had the damn thing rebuilt in May so its under warranty. Gonna deal with that this week.

A billet servo will put more surface area and pressure on the main band. A kevlar main band won't slip as much as a stocker, and the billet forward drum which usually includes a hardened input shaft is to take the shock of a hard and quick 1-2 shift. It all works great but a stock rebuild won't last long even with just a 44 like we have. If it runs right, a tranny to take the abuse is required.
 
I understand your probs all too well I picked mines up off of the previous owner in the middle of the conversion and to make matters worse the motor had just been rebuilt and never started. I had zero experience with these cars and he had even less, everything was wrong with this car but thanks to this site it all came together. Glad to hear your car is running right now and if we went through anywhere neat the same amount of work and cash spent a grand is a small price to pay to bring it all together
 
84 t type, he spent hours on this car getting it just right. Previous owner had vacuum lines were there should not have been vacuum lines, hoses to turbo wrong. Boost set too high. Tuner got all that fixed and it was doing well then had bucking on highway. Had to replace crank sensor. Then went out for another tune and I had boost creep between 16 climbing to 19. He had to fix the wastegate hole to keep it at 17 lbs. I had about 225 in parts and 600 in labor. I had some welds broken on the exhaust, some switch issues with the digital dash and dome lighting so I would say my labor on this car was on the high side because the previous owner had a lot wrong. I would assume much less for just a drive and tune. The parts included Coil pack, crank sensor, water pump, plugs and wires.

WE4 Mateo. That is interesting about the turbo and the trans. The tuner stated the problem is the servo and the drum. He could have fixed it but I had the damn thing rebuilt in May so its under warranty. Gonna deal with that this week.

Lturbo6, where abouts in Westland are you? I am in livonia at Merriman and Plymouth area.

I saw your car up at Bruces. I have the Burgungy T up there right now. I will PM you
Funny, I have a Buick, and just sold my 89 IROC convertible last summer. No vette though
 
You're very welcome. Glad you're happy with the tune-up. I have a great reputation of doing......Oh.....wait a minute.....I don't live in Roseville. Oops. Sorry.:redface:

Bruce '87 Grand National
 
Nice feeling for sure, when they work right. Bust the tires loose on a roll once for me while your out. It's been raining here all week and the forecast shows more of the same so I am itching to drive my car.

With regards to the tune, just make sure you write down the settings in the chip, timing 1-2, 3-4 gears, fuel +/- cause if you unhook the battery for any reason I think the chip goes back to default. It's nice to have that baseline written down somewhere.
 
Nice car!

These cars are amazing and addicting! :eek:

x2...I'm racing this weekend with my new budget built motor. I'll write it up in another thread if it goes well this Sunday :cool: But driving the car now with the improvements I've made over the winter is just amazing. It's the best it's ever run right now but it took a lot of sensors, patience, a good tune, and some alky to bring it all together...
 
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