Kenne Bell Boostsa-spark/Boosta pump?

[SS/GN]

Any one run a Kenne Bell Boosta spark or boosta a pump system.Is their any advantages or just another trick part of the week.I remember these from an old catalog and I see some of the corvette guys still use them.Thanks

Kevinj

 

[hansongn]

i got a kenne bell bap on my lightning, it works by raising voltage to the pump, therefore increasing fp. its kind of the sasme principal as our hotwire kit-sort of.

 

[Red Regal T]

Any one run a Kenne Bell Boosta spark or boosta a pump system.Is their any advantages or just another trick part of the week.I remember these from an old catalog and I see some of the corvette guys still use them.Thanks

Kevinj

My take on that part is that it was obsolete before it was obsolete. :biggrin:

 

[Grumpy]

I know a lot of FAST cars using them

 

[Red Regal T]

I know a lot of FAST cars using them

doesn't mean the obsolete boost-a-pump has anything to do with it. However, I can see the advantage of using a volt booster, but really don't know if all FAST cars use them.

 

[mtocrs1]

Ive had one on my TR for 10yrs with no issues. Raises voltage around 3V and around 4-5lb of fuel pressure when on.

 

[Grumpy]

doesn't mean the obsolete boost-a-pump has anything to do with it. However, I can see the advantage of using a volt booster, but really don't know if all FAST cars use them.

Well Lingenfelter has been using them for years in big HP cars. BUT what do they know Lots of fast Mustang Cobra's to.

 

[Just a Six??]

Well Lingenfelter has been using them for years in big HP cars. BUT what do they know Lots of fast Mustang Cobra's to.

So do you suggest one for our cars? Do you run one? Curious now??

 

[Squid4life]

Search all you can on it, if I remember correctly there were a few issues with using it and an alky kit together or something. A local guy had a few issues popping fuses when he was using it, which was scary in itself as he was running alky and high boost daily. Otherwise, it has been used forever and has been successful. As with everything else on these cars, your sh!t need to be correctly wired, soldered, routed, etc and not thrown together or cobbled together.

 

[Red Regal T]

Well Lingenfelter has been using them for years in big HP cars. BUT what do they know Lots of fast Mustang Cobra's to.

Name dropping ... now I'm really impressed. Is that a fact, or did you just make it up? I'd think you'd at least be on a first name basis with, what's his name? Lingenfelter? When myself and most of the "racers" here at TB.com, decide to launch our campaigns into the 8s, we'll be sure to at least look into the pros and cons of the $250 Kenne-Bell BOOST-A-PUMP. Unfortunately, there's no information available in the archives here or at our brother site. That might indicate something. :wink:

 

[Grumpy]

call it whatever ya want.. We have a lot of local Vettes and Mustangs and Buicks that run them . they are only 9 sec street cars NOT race cars. They have done it not just flapped their jaws about it. So what do ya have on YOUR car ???

 

[Grumpy]

So do you suggest one for our cars? Do you run one? Curious now??

I wouldn't be bothered on a 11 sec car.. BUT I would consider it for a faster car. We want to use an intank fuel pump . We ran 9.9@ 138+ with just a 255 and Alky. making some changes in the car an one was the Supra pump an the KB booster pump. Feels good driving on the street but the butt dyno really doesn't mean much to me. Gotta get it to the track.

 

[JayC]

My take on that part is that it was obsolete before it was obsolete. :biggrin:

My take is that you have no idea what you're talking about.

The BaP is a great piece. It compensates for voltage drops in the vehicle as well as allowing for increased voltage to the pump. Watch your voltage at night when the headlights are on vs the daytime when you're not running headlights. Dont think that has a bearing on your fuel delivery?

The Boost A Spark, well, for some cars they work really well. For the Buick, not so much.

 

[Just a Six??]

Search all you can on it, if I remember correctly there were a few issues with using it and an alky kit together or something.

I thought Julio was against using them & voltboosters etc for the average tuner.
Not everone can go to the track 40 times a season so we have to go by the average guy.
So for most it's probably not needed or worth the extra $$ that could be used on track days instead. Seems a waste of $$ for the regular Joe just out having some fun.

 

[JayC]

A BaP has no bearing whatsoever on an alcohol system unless you hook it up to the alcohol pump which would be worthless.

 

[Squid4life]

I thought Julio was against using them & voltboosters etc for the average tuner.
Not everone can go to the track 40 times a season so we have to go by the average guy.
So for most it's probably not needed or worth the extra $$ that could be used on track days instead. Seems a waste of $$ for the regular Joe just out having some fun.

You are right about the regular joe deal, haven't seen a track in a looong time myself. As for Julio, I will have to keep looking for that thread, can't seem to locate it. I think he made mention of it, and maybe even a fix or something simple to correct/avoid the problem. Will post up if I find it.

 

[Squid4life]

Here we go, my fault, it was boost booster, not boost a pump. But, I could see something similar happening if up to 10 psi you are consistent with regards to fuel pressure and volume, then it changes. Opinions?

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/alcohol-nitrous-propane-tech/147348-tuning-alkycontrol-kit.html

Volt Booster issues
Ran into an issue using the Volt Booster on the car. What was happening was at 10 PSI when the volt booster kicked on, it also raised the drive to the alky pump. The results was the AFR dropped into the low 9's for AFR then started to auto correct itself. Cuasing spiking in the AFR readings of the Wide band.

Eliminating the volt booster, cuased the car to pickup .2 and make a much cleaner run with the alky kit.

Also watch how much alky is sprayed at WOT, too much can have an affect on the turbo's ability to make boost.. cuasing a MPH loss as well.

More to follow. As it becomes available. Hope this tid-bit helps.

Julio

 

[Grumpy]

Not everone can go to the track 40 times a season so we have to go by the average guy.
So for most it's probably not needed or worth the extra $$ that could be used on track days instead. Seems a waste of $$ for the regular Joe just out having some fun.

we havent been to the track for a long time with Melissa's car BUT she is still driving it a lot.
..Like I said I would say it's for faster cars .. not an 11 sec cruiser.
.... Speaking of the reg Joe wasting a lot of $$$ look at the sigs of guys with 9 sec cars running in the 11s .. Now thats a waste of $$$

 

[TR Custom Parts]

Search all you can on it, if I remember correctly there were a few issues with using it and an alky kit together or something. A local guy had a few issues popping fuses when he was using it, which was scary in itself as he was running alky and high boost daily. Otherwise, it has been used forever and has been successful. As with everything else on these cars, your sh!t need to be correctly wired, soldered, routed, etc and not thrown together or cobbled together.

Believe the problem was using a volt booster that boosts ALL voltage. OOPS, see that was already answered, didn't read the whole thread yet. The boost a pump only boosts voltage to the pump, nothing else. Like Grumpy said a lot of big $$$ cars using them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lingenfelter Unfortunately he died from injuries in a racing accident.

 

[SS/GN]

I see the boosta pumps on the Lingenfelter cars and mustangs ,but has anyone tried the boosta spark?I do not see them on any other cars,other than Kenne Bell's web site Curious

Kevin