Robert Walton
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Has anyone found a "bolt" on hub for the LS1 conversion??? Instead of machining the original rotor to size. Gracias 
LS1 brake rotor hub ????
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Mad_Trbo said:
This is an LS1 Camaro swap NOT a B-Body Caprice swap
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Mad_Trbo said:
The LS1 still has a 12" rotor like the Caprice but the calipers are dual piston which provides more clamping than the single Caprice caliper plus the Camaro calipers are aluminum vs. cast iron.
Also even with the Hotchkis upper control arms,the taller spindle from the Caprice creates funky angles with the upper ball joint. The Caprice swap also adds from 3/8 to 1/2" more track to the front. If you already bought wheels that fit the stock spindle assembly they may not work with the Caprice.
I've been told by some machine shops that cutting down the stock rotor for use as a hub could be dangerous. The heat from machining takes the temper out of the rotor/hub. Also been told that most replacement rotors are made of inferior off shore metal and could be brittle to start with.
Robert Walton said:
Take a close look at the other oem set-ups. Look at the vette hubs, heck any of the hub only set-ups. I beat on mine alot, and todate notta problem. I lost count of how many 70->0, and 80->0 *panic* stops I did with my G-Tech SS logging. Not to mention more then just a few, to demonstrate it's stopping power to friends. Or with 4 full sized adults in the car.
I started with oem GM rotors, for whatever that's worth.
BTW, the hubs aren't heat treated.
The rotor advantage is that the LS1's are 1.25" thick compared to the LE1 1.0" (or maybe it was 1.125"). But they are much thicker.
Aftermarket LS1 rotors are said to be inferior. All the LS1 guys I know stick with stock GM rotors and have not had a problem. I'm sure a good baer or wilwood rotor would not have the same defects as the autozone special rotors though.
IF you have done this conversion, where did you get the caliper adaptor made?
IF you have done this conversion, where did you get the caliper adaptor made?
84TXGN said:
*IF*?
I bought the whole set-up from the Parts for Sale section of this board. IF you want, you can do a search for it. It was $650. That's IF it's that important to. So there was no need for me to have an adapter made. It looks remarkably similiar to the ones mentioned in the T6P threads.
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The B-body setup does give the problem of increased bumpsteer, which is actually why I'm converting to the LS1 setup with tall BJs.
The LS1 setup is also going to increase track width a bit, due to the thickness fo the rotor. I measured it last weekend but forget what it was at that point. It shouldn't be as much as the B-body swap.
There are several places you can get the brackets from. A quick search should yield a place or two.
That seems strange that people are sticking with GM rotors. From what I've been reading, most people ditch the GM rotors once the stockers warp then pick up the Autozones, which actually seem to work okay. Just what I've read though.
The LS1 setup is also going to increase track width a bit, due to the thickness fo the rotor. I measured it last weekend but forget what it was at that point. It shouldn't be as much as the B-body swap.
There are several places you can get the brackets from. A quick search should yield a place or two.
That seems strange that people are sticking with GM rotors. From what I've been reading, most people ditch the GM rotors once the stockers warp then pick up the Autozones, which actually seem to work okay. Just what I've read though.
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Robert Walton said:
Heat what heat? Its not like you are using a cutting torch to cut it down or a plasma cutter. Using a mill doesnt create that much heat.
703crewchief
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I agree, Machining isn't going to make near as much heat as a panic stop at 60 mph in a 3600 lb. car. I've machined rotors and have never had them glowing red like I've seen them through the wheel after spirited driving.
hubs
check thses hubs out, i saw them on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...2602&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT
check thses hubs out, i saw them on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...2602&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT
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hybrid85 said:
Thank you very much... :biggrin: I know Wilwood has something similar but I was afraid to ask how much
Cutting the rotor off the hub is pretty easy for most any machine shop. Easiest thing to do is either buy a new rotor/hub from a parts house or pull a set from a salvage yard, that way you aren't down waiting on the parts to get machined. I havn't seen anybody that makes an aftermarket hub for the G-bodies either.
bruce said:
Try these then
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/C5-B...ryZ33564QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
David
87GN
Check their other auctions the have brakes for c5 brakes calipers too.
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DavzGN said:
Yup
The C5 set-up would be cool to have, considerations of wheel size would play a larger role in the difference between the LS1 and C5 brake set-up. Until you have experienced the performance of LS1 brakes on a G-body its pretty hard to argue the difference. As for me, if I had to make a choice of the most difference one item made on my GN, it would be the brake upgrade.
Those are nice hubs by the way, I still think for the money stock hubs machined down would still work as good, but I'm a biased machinist :wink: .
Those are nice hubs by the way, I still think for the money stock hubs machined down would still work as good, but I'm a biased machinist :wink: .
