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Cheeseburger
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Originally posted by ttypewhite
No i do not fall in the same boat and its not the same thing, first off i have an 87 turbo t ltd converted to a Grand National with a pristine interior and a very low mile motor with a mirror high gloss paint job, well worth $8000 more.
You could never tell its not a GN.
My car has video/pictures/of many 10 sec passes and all the timeslips and is legal to run as fast as 9.99.
The shortblock only holds the motor together, it does not make the power.
Also it pulls the wheels 3 feet in the air!
No flames intended at all,good luck with the sale.
P.S. Who is the person that bought your other car that ran low 10s? Just curious sense you had mentioned it.
This thread reminds me on my buddy who had a claimed "500 H.P" LSC , blower ,ported heads , cam , etc . I told him he didnt have **** until he had a slip in his hands . Well the first pass his 500hp car did was in the 16s @85mph . Turns out the timming was way retarded it went 13.05 @108 after all was tuned out not bad for a 4000lb car on street tires . He quite retarded actually car wise and just bought a 350Z which he thinks is fast now , I cant wait to embarass him in my newly aquired 04 ZO6 vette , or the buick to relive the old days .
Proven
Ttypewhite has a very nice street car and should be commended for his efforts to bring these TRs back from being parted out. He has already proven a solid 10 sec combination. Not all people have the ability to put something like that together. Whoever buys his TR will be getting a fast car that will hold its own. Perhaps the new owner will track it to a 10.71@127.7
Ttypewhite has a very nice street car and should be commended for his efforts to bring these TRs back from being parted out. He has already proven a solid 10 sec combination. Not all people have the ability to put something like that together. Whoever buys his TR will be getting a fast car that will hold its own. Perhaps the new owner will track it to a 10.71@127.7
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i see the points being made in this thread and understand where both sides are coming from. But let me ask, does GM or ford or any company rag every car they make at the track before the can safely say the est time for a Z06 0-60 is 4.2 or what not? No. If the person buying the car is buying it knowing it has not been run at the track but that the parts and labor put into the car are legit. Then i see no problem with it. I didn't take the time to read the for sale post that is being talked about, but as long as its not an out right lie that states it has run 10s in its current form , then i see it as no different than selling a car and stating is has the combo to run a certain number
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I look at it this way: These cars have a couple different modes:
One I call "Set On Kill Mode": where it has the POTENTIAL to run an et and mph number based on the parts its got and what other people have run with 'very' similar parts ni a perfect tune and pass.
Then you have "Street Mode": which I figure can be a second or more slower than Kill Mode and is the way most TR's/TTA's are driven every day or on nice days and SHOULD be able to hold their own against most other HP vehicles out there unless they have juice or more cu.in. which are artifically aspirated at which point whoever hooks from a dig or whoever has the power from a roll is most likely gonna get to show some taillights.
Then you have everything else in between from alky, propane, racegas and xylene to stickey street radials and folks running around on slicks.
I'm trying to assemble a combo which SHOULD have the POTENTIAL to click off a high 10 IF set on kill so when someone asks me how fast is it I usually give them the numbers it has run or should run at a normal race level and the potential that it could run if set on kill on a perfect pass. As they say, build a car quite a bit quicker so you can run a comfortable number you want.
If I'm buying a car and the owner has timeslips then I still have to determine if the car has anything left and how hard they've had to lean on it to run that number and try and find out if they've also ever hurt it in the process....so I figure its still buyer beware and you better be informed.
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One I call "Set On Kill Mode": where it has the POTENTIAL to run an et and mph number based on the parts its got and what other people have run with 'very' similar parts ni a perfect tune and pass.
Then you have "Street Mode": which I figure can be a second or more slower than Kill Mode and is the way most TR's/TTA's are driven every day or on nice days and SHOULD be able to hold their own against most other HP vehicles out there unless they have juice or more cu.in. which are artifically aspirated at which point whoever hooks from a dig or whoever has the power from a roll is most likely gonna get to show some taillights.
Then you have everything else in between from alky, propane, racegas and xylene to stickey street radials and folks running around on slicks.
I'm trying to assemble a combo which SHOULD have the POTENTIAL to click off a high 10 IF set on kill so when someone asks me how fast is it I usually give them the numbers it has run or should run at a normal race level and the potential that it could run if set on kill on a perfect pass. As they say, build a car quite a bit quicker so you can run a comfortable number you want.
If I'm buying a car and the owner has timeslips then I still have to determine if the car has anything left and how hard they've had to lean on it to run that number and try and find out if they've also ever hurt it in the process....so I figure its still buyer beware and you better be informed.
My .02
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Originally posted by BoostKillsStres
If I'm buying a car and the owner has timeslips then I still have to determine if the car has anything left and how hard they've had to lean on it to run that number and try and find out if they've also ever hurt it in the process....so I figure its still buyer beware and you better be informed.
My .02
I agree whole heartedly. I have never ran 30+psi in my cars because I want them to live, I am not knocking anyone who does this so guys don't take my comments to heart, I am just speaking for myself. My motor in my own personal T-type has been in the car for 5 years now since I sold my Staged motor and is still running strong. With the blue T-type I am selling, I have no intention on tracking it. I will leave that to the new owner. But the trueth of the matter is this. Last year when I took my white T-type to the track a ran a string of 10 sec passes I was told not to come back unless I have a cage. The blue T-type has no cage and I have no slicks for it. I run 28 x 10.5 x 15 MT on my white T, but the rear lip is folded up to accomidate the tire/without the molding. For the Blue T it needs a 26 x 10.5 x 15 (which I don't have) because the rear lip is stock with the molding still on it.
Okay ! I am convinced.
IMO
ttyypewhite can talk the talk and appears to know what he is doing, probably more than many of us.
Both sides here have made their point here and now seem to be at a stalemate of sorts.
The car ttypewhite has advertised seems to be worth considering even though is untested. Appears to have a tested combination to run somewhere in the tens. I will say running in the mid tens with iron heads will require some "decent" boost, so be prepaired to push the envelope.
High tens would be more realistic to stay on the safe side, but that is fast. However to do that your going to have to get some slicks under there somehow.
IMO
ttyypewhite can talk the talk and appears to know what he is doing, probably more than many of us.
Both sides here have made their point here and now seem to be at a stalemate of sorts.
The car ttypewhite has advertised seems to be worth considering even though is untested. Appears to have a tested combination to run somewhere in the tens. I will say running in the mid tens with iron heads will require some "decent" boost, so be prepaired to push the envelope.
High tens would be more realistic to stay on the safe side, but that is fast. However to do that your going to have to get some slicks under there somehow.
well i'm talking then
This very thread motivated me to push my completely stock bottom end GN back into the 10's. So last night we went to Atlanta Dragway and snapped off a 10.78@125mph. If anybody wants to see the timeslip just e-mail me. Point is don't doubt anyone unless you know them or the car. Now I ain't taking anyone's side on the issue of false advertising but I wouldn't want anyone saying my car wasn't as fast as I say.
Originally posted by azgn
timeslips talk, BS walks
offer the buyer a "mid 10 sec or money back warranty" and you'll have some credibility....otherwise, see above
This very thread motivated me to push my completely stock bottom end GN back into the 10's. So last night we went to Atlanta Dragway and snapped off a 10.78@125mph. If anybody wants to see the timeslip just e-mail me. Point is don't doubt anyone unless you know them or the car. Now I ain't taking anyone's side on the issue of false advertising but I wouldn't want anyone saying my car wasn't as fast as I say.
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When or if i put my stage 2 motor in, will my car be an 8 second car automatically?? 
8s are easier then i thought!
LOL.
8s are easier then i thought!
LOL.
no flames intended
Woody I meant no harm or flames! I guess I should have said this differently. I agree with you the most about this subject thats why I choose to quote you. Ya'll probably don't remember but I had my car for sale awhile back and I said it was a 10 second car although I had never actually never seen it turn a 10 second pass. So I did have something to prove to myself. That I ain't just talking the talk but that I am also walking the walk. But please don't take it personal. Sorry if I got your dander up. I won't quote you anymore. So if anybody cares I turned a 10.78@125mph at only 22# of boost with a street tune in the F.A.S.T. Sorry Woody.
Woody I meant no harm or flames! I guess I should have said this differently. I agree with you the most about this subject thats why I choose to quote you. Ya'll probably don't remember but I had my car for sale awhile back and I said it was a 10 second car although I had never actually never seen it turn a 10 second pass. So I did have something to prove to myself. That I ain't just talking the talk but that I am also walking the walk. But please don't take it personal. Sorry if I got your dander up. I won't quote you anymore. So if anybody cares I turned a 10.78@125mph at only 22# of boost with a street tune in the F.A.S.T. Sorry Woody.
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I just went 7.17 in the 1/8 on 93 pump gas and 16#.Do you guys think I can run 10's?
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I have had it in high gear on the highway at WOT once and it pulled plenty hard with no knock on the same tune.I don't plan on trying to run 10's in its present tune as that is just pushing it IMO.I was just wondering if anyone thought it may be capable on some good gas and a few more # of boost.
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I did 6.91 with the old motor on race gas.I wouldn't call it 10's though because like said earlier if you don't have a 1/4 mile slip it aint real 10s.I have run 11.20 in the 1/4 at 125 with a 7.3 1/8 mile last time I went to a 1/4 track.So I guess I am a contender for the 10 sec club.
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