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Mr. T-Type

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set a floorjack under the oil pan
remove the 4 bolts
swap mounts
bolt new mount in
repleat for other side

anything I'm missing? I couldn't find a link on gnttype for the instructions. I don't want to leave out some minute detail.
 
haha funny i see this post because i just went through it last week. Replaced the driverside with polly and pass with factory. Do the driverside first, then do not tighten to frame just put the bolt through. Then move the jack a bit to the pass side and jack that side, It takes some playing to get the ratchet in there for the bolts and removing the mount but take your time and you should have no problem. Just watch for things as you raise the engine. When all was said and done i had a fuel leak that just needed to be tighten, Thats how i did it. SOmeone may chime in with a different option. Good Luck!!
 
I started with the mindset it would only take about 30-45 minutes like it does in other cars I have done. I was wrong. After I looked at it, I realized there was alot more work involved. I'll attempt this tomorrow.

Might as well give a few tips while I'm here:
Put the front up on jackstands
Jack up the motor from the harmonic balancer....not the oil pan.
Take off the wheels off for easy access.
 
Originally posted by Mr. T-Type
Jack up the motor from the harmonic balancer....not the oil pan.

I asked about this exact thing before doing mine and got yelled at. ;)

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58556&highlight=motor

I went with a piece of wood under the oil pan. I still think if the pan can handle the wieght, the crank can too. I wonder if I'm got opinions and not facts. If changing both, the balancer makes more sense to me.




Here's my tip. Directly in the middle of the engine cradle is a hole. The cradle and hole opening are a funnel. When you drop one of the forward mount bolts it WILL roll into the hole. Stuff a rag in the hole before starting. I wish I had learned my lesson the first (or second) time. :o
 
here are some notes I made to myself a few months ago, or maybe I wrote them to email to someone else who had asked.


1. Work safe! It is all too easy to crush a finger, a hand, or an arm if something slips. Nothing is worth a permanent disability or missing finger.

2. Raise the car on sturdy jackstands so the front frame lifting pads (behind the frt wheels) are AT LEAST 15” high, 18” is better.

3. I think it would be difficult or impossible to do motor mounts unless you remove: Front Wheels, exhaust crossover pipe, flywheel shield, starter (remove cable off battery first!). (optional: have a nice, small LT4 corvette starter ready to go in :) )

4. For supporting or lifting the engine from the bottom, I cut a 7” long piece of 2x10 lumber. Then the floor jack supports the engine weight across the full area of the oil pan, and there was little risk of bending the pan. I also drilled a 1” hole in the wood for the oil drain plug to fit inside, so the wood could rest flat against the entire surface of the pan.

5. After loosening the fore-aft bolt on the stock mounts, the driver side, oddly, was completely free to slide out even BEFORE I jacked up the engine. The passenger bolt required a bit of engine lift to take the weight off the bolt. Remove mounts per HR’s instructions. Working thru the empty wheel wells helped greatly. Air tools (ratchets, impact wrenches ) are REALLY nice to have, but not essential.

6. Have a 7/16-14 (coarse thread) tap on hand, oil it generously and just plan on carefully running it thru the engine block holes to clean up the holes. It helps the new HR bolts go in so much easier.

7. Have a grade 8, 7/16-14 nut on hand, running it over the new HR bolts will remove any burrs on the bolts. (only grade 8 is hard enough to remove the burrs).

8. An impact air wrench rated 3/8 hex bit (“allen head” bit) instead of a regular bit is less likely to round off when torquing the new HR bolts (HR bolts are harder) .

9. GM’s torque spec on the engine mounting bolts is about 60 lb-ft. The fore-aft bolt connecting the engine and frame pads is about 50 lb-ft. This is with threads lubricated with engine oil or antiseize.

10. Most people say to install the driver side mount first because it’s easier. I DISAGREE, and suggest the passenger side first.

Some amount of prying & pushing is sure to be necessary to get both new mounts to line up. The first mount goes in relatively easy, but because they are so stiff and less compliant, the 2nd mount could likely not align at first, with the frame mounting pads. There is MUCH more room working on the driver side, so that’s the one that should be done last.

I wasted several hours trying to get the passenger side to line up, the engine was always 1/8 – 1/4” too high. Finally took off the DS fore-aft bolt, this let me put in the PS bolt, then some repetitive raising & lowering & pushing allowed the DS to easily go in.
 
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