Motorcycle riders, please be Careful!

[vader87]

Unfortunately, I witnessed a terrible motorcycle accident today. I was behind two old ladies going around a blind left turn when a BMW Motorcycle was coming from the opposite direction. The ladies were cutting the corner so that half the car was in on coming traffic. I was thinking to myself that I hope no one is speeding around this turn when this motorcycle, which was speeding, came around and was hugging the centerline. He tried to steer left so that he would pass the car on the passenger side, but the car jerked back into their lane hitting the motorcycle with the passenger front side. The motorcycle "exploded" into thousands of pieces as the driver was thrown over the car and on to the road. The rider had a jacked up leg and was knocked out. Called 112 for emergency and the ambulance came. No life threatening injuries. I think both parties will be charged. Anyway, my wife rides a bike and I know some of you do as well, so PLEASE BE CAREFUL! Happy Father's Day!

 

[broke1]

Poor bastards pain will start in the hospital.I grew up on motorcycles but ill never get on one again.Hospitals and docs treat cycle riders VERY badly.

 

[BlackMetal]

Well that's unfortunate but I have a hard time feeling bad for bikers. So many of them think they own the road, I constantly see them risking their own lives and the lives of others. The car that hit him was obviously too far over, but if he was speeding and trying to hug the centerline like he was taking a turn on a racetrack then he's at fault too. And while I wasn't there to see the exact details of the situation, the fact that he decided he should try to pass on the passenger side of the car doesn't sound very smooth either. Should have figured that the car would swerve back into their lane when they saw him coming.

Sounds like he survived so maybe he'll learn something.

 

[broke1]

Well that's unfortunate but I have a hard time feeling bad for bikers. So many of them think they own the road, I constantly see them risking their own lives and the lives of others. The car that hit him was obviously too far over, but if he was speeding and trying to hug the centerline like he was taking a turn on a racetrack then he's at fault too. And while I wasn't there to see the exact details of the situation, the fact that he decided he should try to pass on the passenger side of the car doesn't sound very smooth either. Should have figured that the car would swerve back into their lane when they saw him coming.

Sounds like he survived so maybe he'll learn something.

I hope and pray you or anyone you know will ever have to experience it.Your response is that of a heartless person,may God have mercy on you...

People have life threatening injuries and the people that are supposed to help them think the exact same way as you.Cycle riders deserve the same compassion as anyone else.

Learning a lesson from never being able to walk correctly or being stuck in a wheelchair is more than a lesson learned,its somthing you have to live with the rest of your life.

 

[vader87]

You are right, and in no way am I saying all bike riders are dangerous, but here in Germany they are CRAZY! During a traffic jam, they think they can ride down the center line to bypass everyone. I was passed yesterday by two bikes on a 70 kph two lane and they were doing at least 150 kph. Also my wife and I were sitting in traffic with a bike behind us. There was some unexpected construction in our lane so the people in the left lane began to merge into the right lane using the "zipper". That is one car goes by, one car merges, one car goes by, one car merges. Its the law. Any way as I begin to merge the bike guns it and passes me on the right side just to move up one position. I almost hit him!
Yea, the bike that was hit today was speeding and I told the police he was doing at least 100kph in a 50kph zone. Bottom line is no matter what the old ladies were doing, if he would not have been speeding, first he would not have been there and second he would have had more time to react. Fortunately my wife follows the rules as she is still a young bike rider.

 

[broke1]

I know what youre saying man....

If you love your wife,you will get her off that motorcycle and into a car!!

 

[vader87]

Oh don't worry! Remember, she is carrying my little spawn now, so the bike is history!

 

[Roc87]

Most folks have an attitude towards motorcyclists, and all it takes is witnessing some idiot doing stupid things on a bike. I had my first one around 4 months and got rear-ended by an old lady. I see guys on bikes speeding, stunting, doing stupid things, and most of the accidents I hear about are those who actually try and obey the law. I had to wear a cast on my ankle after they put pins in it for 12 weeks, and a cast on my wrist for 6 weeks. Glad the guy was OK, as far as life threatening injuries.......

Happy Fathers day! Hope you all had a good one

 

[BlackMetal]

I hope and pray you or anyone you know will ever have to experience it.Your response is that of a heartless person,may God have mercy on you...

My ex-girlfriend's mother had her skull caved in during a motorcycle accident. She was in the process of learning to ride with her husband (my ex's father) and had an accident. I was there during the painful recovery process, and I did feel awful when an INNOCENT RIDER was involved. So don't tell me about experiencing a cycle accident first hand, I've been there.

I'm not heartless towards all bikers, I'm heartless to the bikers who think the world is their racetrack. I saw some guy on a chopper get blatantly rear-ended in traffic last week. I felt bad for him. But in this situation the guy was speeding and riding the paint in the center of the road. Hell, if I'm a biker and I'm coming up to a blind turn, I'm gunna turn down the macho attitude for a second and BE CAREFUL. This guy took the turn like a bigshot and paid for it. So if I sound heartless towards him, fine, I guess I am. He could have caused the car of innocent people to swerve even farther than they did and injure/kill themselves.

Some people deserve pity and some don't. I had a friend in high school who died racing but he killed an innocent man when he lost control and came into oncoming traffic. I was sad about the loss but he took an innocent life because of his stupidity, so it's hard to feel bad. This biker was acting stupid like 99% of all riders I see out there, and he bit the bullet.

Guess I'm "heartless" because I feel reckless show-offs deserve the consequences.

I see bikers all the time who think having a smaller vehicle entitles them to drive like an idiot.

To all the law-abiding, careful riders out there, I wish you all the best towards your safety and health, you deserve it. I know for most bikers the average public road is like a warzone for you because nobody pays attention, and you're at risk every time you go out. To all of you who ride like MORONS, I am indeed heartless towards you.

 

[tommynos]

My ex-girlfriend's mother had her skull caved in during a motorcycle accident. She was in the process of learning to ride with her husband (my ex's father) and had an accident. I was there during the painful recovery process, and I did feel awful when an INNOCENT RIDER was involved. So don't tell me about experiencing a cycle accident first hand, I've been there.

I'm not heartless towards all bikers, I'm heartless to the bikers who think the world is their racetrack. I saw some guy on a chopper get blatantly rear-ended in traffic last week. I felt bad for him. But in this situation the guy was speeding and riding the paint in the center of the road. Hell, if I'm a biker and I'm coming up to a blind turn, I'm gunna turn down the macho attitude for a second and BE CAREFUL. This guy took the turn like a bigshot and paid for it. So if I sound heartless towards him, fine, I guess I am. He could have caused the car of innocent people to swerve even farther than they did and injure/kill themselves.

Some people deserve pity and some don't. I had a friend in high school who died racing but he killed an innocent man when he lost control and came into oncoming traffic. I was sad about the loss but he took an innocent life because of his stupidity, so it's hard to feel bad. This biker was acting stupid like 99% of all riders I see out there, and he bit the bullet.

Guess I'm "heartless" because I feel reckless show-offs deserve the consequences.

I see bikers all the time who think having a smaller vehicle entitles them to drive like an idiot.

To all the law-abiding, careful riders out there, I wish you all the best towards your safety and health, you deserve it. I know for most bikers the average public road is like a warzone for you because nobody pays attention, and you're at risk every time you go out. To all of you who ride like MORONS, I am indeed heartless towards you.

your first post was i dont feel bad for bikers,then you say "most act like they own the road"...well some just drive so to say you dont feel any pity towards them was kinda rude,but i know what you meant,it just came out wrong...
with that aside,i was pumping gas when a guy on a motorcycle was sitting waiting to turn right on a friday afternoon,when i heard a car fly by then over the intersection and plowed into the guy just sitting their on his motorcycle,the guy was drunk in the car and went way right over the intersection...i ran across to see him dead,be-legged...not good at all,i sold my bike a week or so later...
my sisters lawyer got the case and the driver of the car walked to the phone and called his boss to tell him he wont be to work tommoro?he also told them he didnt know where he was he was soo drunk.....think about that,he was just sitting minding his own buisiness,and bamm he is dead....

 

[Welby]

Hospitals and docs treat cycle riders VERY badly.

Wasn't true in my case. I was involved in a bad accident in '03 on my '99 SV650. A minivan turned left int front of me and I dumped the bike trying to avoid it. It was so close that I tumbled past the van but my bike hit it. Talk about life and death coming down to milliseconds! I ended up separating my right shoulder, crushing my right wrist, spraining my left ankle and had major road rash on my hands (No gloves...stupid).

Everyone that treated me was great, IMO.

I have have an '03 SV1000. I can't help but get back on one, I love it. Some people have an incident and can't deal, but I'm the type that will get back on the horse.

 

[psycho6cyl]

Motorcycles

about a month ago I was comming home late exiting of the highway (2 lanes) and up ahead is a dip in the road. guess I was going too slow (5 above speed limit) and Mr. Motorcycle wants to pass so he guns and the dip comes up. I then knew what Tank Slap looked like. I was schocked the man wasnt thrown from the bike. He definitely sh!t a pickle bc he was goin 20 when passed him.. The next week non the less 2 bikes cut me off soo bad I had to jump in the other lane. Bikes are just like cars, it all depends on the operator. Live to Ride Ride to Live...

 

[mjdwyer23]

One of my buddies in high school was killed on his crotch rocket. He wasn't even screwing around that time, but a truck pulled out in front of him. He got stuck under it, the bike broke in half, and he was dragged for a mile. I'll stay away from them for the rest of my life.

 

[Danster]

I do see some crazy azz Bike Drivers in the DFW area. The other day I was going about 70 MPH on the freeway and a couple of bikes were racing/goofing around going about 80 MPH and one of them decided he was going to pop a wheelie at 80 MPH racing the other guy!

Damn, the only thing I could think of, one little mistake or something on the road and this guy loses control, game over! I know I wouldn't have the balls to do something like that especially with all the traffic that was on the freeway at that time.

Amazing!

Dannyo

 

[turbofish38]

Poor bastards pain will start in the hospital.I grew up on motorcycles but ill never get on one again.Hospitals and docs treat cycle riders VERY badly.

But isn't a statement like yours showing the same bigotry as Turbo6Chicagos ? Riding is freedom of expression or what ever you want to call it. The burdon falls on everybody to pay attention and follow the rules of the road whether it be bike or cage. I've been riding bikes since I was in my late teens. Long before MSF safety classes were popular. I taught myself to be a safe rider through experience. I cant say I've ever been in the big one yet but I have dumped it once and it was clearly rider error. Nothing beats experience which is what a lot of those posuers that Chicago is talking about dont have.Not to mention "common sense". What are you going to do when you pile up the car? Say I'm never going to drive again? It takes a certain mentality to survive on a bike. Its probally a good thing you hung it up with thinking like that. Like the old saying goes. "If you ride, than you're going to slide". You need to prepare yourself to survive the slide.

 

[broke1]

Eric ive had ATV's since I was 5,started riding dirt bikes when I was 7.Ive owned more than 30 over the years and many of them I totalled walking away almost injury free.Owned 1 crotch rocket and sold it before I hurt myself.Im no stranger to riding at all.I had my accident on a atv wih ALOT of power and the only thing I was doing stupid was riding without a helmet.Guess what,no head injuries and not even close

Im sure youve heard the saying about "what do they call motorcycle riders in the ER,organ donors" right??Im thourghly convinced after talking to others and from my own experience,they think you got what you deserve.

I hope none of you ever have to suffer it as its the most terrible thing you could imagine,PERIOD.

 

[turbofish38]

http://users.crocker.com/~mwilliams/Off_Road_Motorcycling.htm

I found this site a while back and the guy has the right attitude. Much like you a dirt rider afraid to ride on the streets. Its hard to learn the rest of the stuff. Like watching the position of the hands on a steering wheel and making eye contact with a driver. Nobody teaches the science of bike riding.

To bad I cant learn to ride the way cops do. This is the closet thing I've found to it.

 

[Roc87]

http://users.crocker.com/~mwilliams/Off_Road_Motorcycling.htm

I found this site a while back and the guy has the right attitude. Much like you a dirt rider afraid to ride on the streets. Its hard to learn the rest of the stuff. Like watching the position of the hands on a steering wheel and making eye contact with a driver. Nobody teaches the science of bike riding.

To bad I cant learn to ride the way cops do. This is the closet thing I've found to it.

Now why can't the MSF courses go over stuff like that . That's some crazy lean angles for going so slow! Would be interested in finding a riding class that would actually teach stuff like that. Thanks for the link

 

[tommynos]

i was riding for 8 years before i got my indorsment,took it on my v65 magna 1100cc,passed it with ease,and over did it,show boated a bit.....lots of people i know that took it said they did it twice or 3 times?....when i drive i exspect them to turn in front or to come into my lane and soo on...here in florida,the old farts cant drive more less worry about a motorcycle rider!

 

[turbofish38]

i was riding for 8 years before i got my indorsment,took it on my v65 magna 1100cc,passed it with ease,and over did it,show boated a bit.....lots of people i know that took it said they did it twice or 3 times?....when i drive i exspect them to turn in front or to come into my lane and soo on...here in florida,the old farts cant drive more less worry about a motorcycle rider!

Well I'm almost ashamed to admit this but ever since I hit FL in 2000 I've been riding with out the endorsement. I cant pass the riding skills on my 81 Suzuki GS1000SZ Katana. Clip on bars and a 520 pound bike on a 60 inch wheelbase on that tight little course is a little overwhelming for me. I was just reading that the state figures that 40-45% of the riders out there dont have the endorsement either. And I refuse to do the skills test on anything but that bike. Hey like I was telling the people at the DMV, thats the bike I ride everyday no sense doing the skills test on another bike if I cant use those skills effectively in everyday riding.You can roll over the learners permit a total of 5 times,every 90 days before you have to take the written test again. Thats how I've been riding legal all these years. I even bought myself a 80 Kawasaki KZ1000C3 cop bike just so I could get some seat time practicing on the course at the DMV. Thats where I ran across that link I posted. What I hate is when this smarta$$ DeLand FL motor cop shows up when they are doing the skills test and does the course on a RoadKing like its nothing. He wont take me up on a bet that he couldn't ride the course on my Katana. Now thats a cop out IMO. Its getting to be a waste of time for me trying to get the endorsement. I think I'm just going to have to go up to one of the riding schools and rent a bike to pass the skills test. Its only $85 to use one of those Buell 500cc bikes and I dont have to go through all the BS of the full $250 course. And here's the kicker. I can take the test over and over until I pass. To bad I didn't find out about that a couple of years ago. I would have been money ahead. The DMV nails me $25 everytime I take the skills test.