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Those two have been going at it for awhile. That was a blatant smack with intentions of wrecking him, that's why they parked Edwards.
 
It was blatant payback, which I have absolutely no problem with. Doing it at those speeds was stupid especially given the way these current cars react to going backwards at those speeds. I'm sure these guys lose perspective of speed sometimes but, Edwards should have known better. Had the car not flipped it would be a non-issue.
 
Edwards is on probation, big F-ing deal!! This won't teach him anything.

Don't jump my $hit here for comparing a ficticious movie about NASCAR to the real thing.

But, maybe NASCAR should do to these two clowns like what was threatened to be done in Days Of Thunder when Cole & Rowdy were playing bumpercars..... if they trade paint one more time, Black Flag both of them (Edwards & Keselowski) tear their cars apart for 500 laps, then if they pass inspection, let them comeback to racing.

What might get both their attentions is if their sponsors either dropped them or at least threatened to drop them. Hit 'em where it hurts, fines are pocket change to these guys & mean nothing.

Without sponsors, they are NOTHING. But then again, some other company will see an opportunity, pick them up, & their right back in business.

OR, NASCAR needs to step in & ban them both from competition for a year or more?? That might get their attention too.
 
Only problem is this is exactly what nascar wants. People are talking about it. I like nascar, but viewership is down. Nascar said at the beginning of the year that they're going to allow more bumping and trading of paint. People don't go to nascar to watch drivers get out of the way of a faster car, that's what f1 and indy does. Nascar is all about pushing your way to the front, and if that's what brings in views, that's what nascar is going to allow.
 
BLACK6PACK said:
Only problem is this is exactly what nascar wants. People are talking about it. I like nascar, but viewership is down. Nascar said at the beginning of the year that they're going to allow more bumping and trading of paint. People don't go to nascar to watch drivers get out of the way of a faster car, that's what f1 and indy does. Nascar is all about pushing your way to the front, and if that's what brings in views, that's what nascar is going to allow.
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I agree with you about better racing action. Bumping & pushing makes for great racing.

HOWEVER, when someone is 150+ laps down (Edwards) and purposely wrecks a top 5 finisher @ 190 MPH possibly killing him, that loser a$$bag, named Carl Edwards, should have his points stripped, dropped sponsors, & a $5,000,000 fine as far as I'm concerned.

That isn't "rubbins racin'"..... Thats horse$hit.
 
theCATman said:
HOWEVER, when someone is 150+ laps down (Edwards) and purposely wrecks a top 5 finisher @ 190 MPH possibly killing him, that loser a$$bag, named Carl Edwards, should have his points stripped, dropped sponsors, & a $5,000,000 fine as far as I'm concerned.

That isn't "rubbins racin'"..... Thats horse$hit.
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And borderline manslaughter.... :rolleyes:
 
never really got into NASCAR. Too me it's just 40 somthing cars turning left for 2-3 hours.:p
 
theCATman said:
I agree with you about better racing action. Bumping & pushing makes for great racing.

HOWEVER, when someone is 150+ laps down (Edwards) and purposely wrecks a top 5 finisher @ 190 MPH possibly killing him, that loser a$$bag, named Carl Edwards, should have his points stripped, dropped sponsors, & a $5,000,000 fine as far as I'm concerned.

That isn't "rubbins racin'"..... Thats horse$hit.
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Edwards was only 150 laps down because Keselowski caused him to crash early in the race. there is a long line of people that want to do exactly what Edwards did, but haven't so far. Keselowski was due for a smackdown and he got it.
if you don't agree with this going on in NASCAR, then don't watch NASCAR. stick to Indycars or F1 if you want to see people not making contact and just getting out of the way. NASCAR has always been a contact sport with on track paybacks being the norm when someone gets out of line, and part of the reason for ratings and race attendance being down over the last couple of years is because they tried to get rid of the "contact" part and just made it into a bunch of rolling billboards following each other in a circle for 500 miles and then being nice to each other when it was all over.
 
edwards came down on the 12 car!

early in the race, totally edwards fault, even the blind could see that!!!!!!
edwards always blames others for his screwups, he just a lousy driver!
I do feel kesowloski is a bit hazardous, but what edwards did was just STUPID, comming from him tho, its figures!
I wouldn't let it go, if I was kesowloski, I'd do the same to edwards, knowing all I'm gonna get is probation.



novaderrik said:
Edwards was only 150 laps down because Keselowski caused him to crash early in the race. there is a long line of people that want to do exactly what Edwards did, but haven't so far. Keselowski was due for a smackdown and he got it.
if you don't agree with this going on in NASCAR, then don't watch NASCAR. stick to Indycars or F1 if you want to see people not making contact and just getting out of the way. NASCAR has always been a contact sport with on track paybacks being the norm when someone gets out of line, and part of the reason for ratings and race attendance being down over the last couple of years is because they tried to get rid of the "contact" part and just made it into a bunch of rolling billboards following each other in a circle for 500 miles and then being nice to each other when it was all over.
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That wasn't racing. Edwards is smart enough (maybe) to know that at that speed he wasn't just getting his point across, he was being reckless.
 
I thought the early wreck was Edwards' fault but when they interviewed him while the car was being repaired he clearly thought he was in the right. I hoped he would look at a replay before getting back on track, but oh well :-). He took a shot at Keselowski half a lap or more before the last wreck, starting behind and to the inside and then cranking his car to the top of the track. Missed the rear bumper by an inch or so - if he had made contact that time Keselowski would have been on a merry-go-round. As soon as Edwards recovered from that move and caught back up he flipped him over.
 
cruzn57 said:
early in the race, totally edwards fault, even the blind could see that!!!!!!
edwards always blames others for his screwups, he just a lousy driver!
I do feel kesowloski is a bit hazardous, but what edwards did was just STUPID, comming from him tho, its figures!
I wouldn't let it go, if I was kesowloski, I'd do the same to edwards, knowing all I'm gonna get is probation.
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i believe Carl said the first crash was caused because Keselowski didn't follow some sort of unwritten rule about leaving space for people in the first parts of the races, and not that he got taken out on purpose. he's done it before, and just keeps doing it. Carl had enough. racers have all sorts of unwritten rules for things like this, and it generally comes down to having respect for each other. the biggest complaint i've heard from other racers about Keselowski (and pretty much every young rookie driver) is that he doesn't seem to show the proper amount of respect for the other racers in the early parts of the races, and that he acts as if it's the final turn of the last lap for the entire race. just look at how kyle Busch was a couple of years ago- he's still a punk, but he's not as much of a punk as he was. and when Jimmy Spencer had enough of a young Kurt Busch's crap a few years back and punched him in the garage area after a race, i think Kurt matured as a driver after that happened..
for his part, Keselowski did say in a post race interview that he tried to leave room for Carl, but that he couldn't leave enough room fast enough- so he knows what went wrong and what to do about it, at least. he's young, and he will learn how things work after a few of these kinds of things happen.
 
Keselowski has caused many wrecks last year and mouthed off about it. Now they are getting even :p
 
Grumpy said:
Keselowski has caused many wrecks last year and mouthed off about it. Now they are getting even :p
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And he's continued to bump into others (and everything else) since the beginning of the season. The only reason it's such a big deal is because Keselowski flipped. But at the beginning of the race, not giving up a little space is just BS. There will come a time when Keselowski will need help on the track and because of his behavior won't get it. I'm not condoning Edwards behavior, but IMHO they should have put both of them on probation. I'll get off the box now
 
This will really help the soap opera they call nascar. I used to be a fan but lost interest after it got too big and the networks tried their best to turn it into a freaking soap opera. :yawn:

I like to catch ARCA and Nationwide stuff every once in awhile, will not waste my sunday watching it though. I've helped in the pits during a few ARCA races and a few other series. Had run ins with NASCAR (Winston, Sprint Cup or whatever they call it now) guys (crew members.) They have all been arrogant @ssholes.


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