Performance Help

[mtm864]

Hello all i recently recieved a 85 hot air car from my dad. We currently have a guy building the bottom end with some good stuff and cams and such. So my question is with good dr's what size turbo should i be going with to get low 7sec 8th mile times?? Ill be going with mt et street radials in 15 inch. Im going to switch it to a intercooled car as soon as i get it back in my possesion:biggrin: also what kind of tuning software and other tuning accessories and also injector size will i need? thanks again oh and any other mods necssary...thanks

 

[charlief1]

You have a lot of reading to do first of all. HA cars need lots of attention to make them decently fast. Welcome to your first headache. LOL

 

[RegalT-type85]

Welcome IF your gonna make it intercooled(as in 86/87 setup) There is so much vendors, help here to reach your goals.

IF it's a hotair and you plan on intercooling it(stock turbo location) read all you can, learn what you have, don't have. HA members have great advice.
anything at all ask to bolts or product reviews.


Turbo Buick Performance Build Ups/Recipes since I don't know if your gonna make your Hotair Turbo Regal into a 86/87 setup, this page will help you either way.

If you do go 86/87 Intercooled setup, Turbo upgrades or new BIGGER turbos can be found easy.


If the turbo is gonna be in the stock location(on top of intake) limited to what you can get ex TA33 or custom.

short and simple

Scan tool( scanmaster) I don't have one.....yet!
50lb injections (should keep up to all upgrades,mods)
TurboTweak.com (best chip out there
86 ECM computer upgrade( cheap easy upgrade, junkyard doner part)
fuel pump & hotwire kit (Racetronix.com , casper's electronics)
Alky injection
2.5'' - 3'' Downpipe ( stock elbow removed, it's a 2'' exhaust until you junk the elbow)

This is just some performance options tho.

You also want to safeguard your car, sure you already know this
oil coolers(trans & engine oil)

 

[EatM up]

You have a lot of reading to do first of all. HA cars need lots of attention to make them decently fast. Welcome to your first headache. LOL

hey i feel you charlief1 i have a HA car myself my frist one and i just got a intercooler kit for it allso but like the other guy said have fun. i hope you have lots of money [GVIDEO][/GVIDEO]

 

[mtm864]

yeah im moving everything up to front like the 86-87's just need advice on turbo size and injectors im planning on going into the low 7's in the 8th mile is my goal and having a perfectly streetable car:biggrin: im gonna hold out on the converter and keeping ac and all. So whats your advice oh and im also going to use turbo tweak chip with 86-87ecm and powerlogger just got to find someone in this area that does tuning on GNs im located in SC

 

[youngstr]

This is something I've been wondering for a while.........

Why doesn't someone fab up a bracket to mount the 87 turbo in the proper position without having to change all of our pullies and accesories? I mean if we had that bracket to purchase we'd only need the 87 intake and plenum, throttle body and cables and pipping and intercooler, and 87 exhaust piping to the turbo, although we might have to go custom on the exhaust piping due to not moving accesories, but it would save us from having to change our accesories and belts and the other stuff involved.

I'm just seems that the conversion would be easier and that would be a few less things to buy....

 

[RegalT-type85]

This is something I've been wondering for a while.........

Why doesn't someone fab up a bracket to mount the 87 turbo in the proper position without having to change all of our pullies and accesories? I mean if we had that bracket to purchase we'd only need the 87 intake and plenum, throttle body and cables and pipping and intercooler, and 87 exhaust piping to the turbo, although we might have to go custom on the exhaust piping due to not moving accesories, but it would save us from having to change our accesories and belts and the other stuff involved.

I'm just seems that the conversion would be easier and that would be a few less things to buy....

x2 I always thought if we had the turbo in the IC location,with Ac deleted and IC headers it should give up more room for bigger turbos IDK. Good thinking either way tho youngstr

 

[EatM up]

This is something I've been wondering for a while.........

Why doesn't someone fab up a bracket to mount the 87 turbo in the proper position without having to change all of our pullies and accesories? I mean if we had that bracket to purchase we'd only need the 87 intake and plenum, throttle body and cables and pipping and intercooler, and 87 exhaust piping to the turbo, although we might have to go custom on the exhaust piping due to not moving accesories, but it would save us from having to change our accesories and belts and the other stuff involved.

I'm just seems that the conversion would be easier and that would be a few less things to buy....

if your going threw all the work why put the IC in the stock location? why not put it up front?

 

[Jerryl]

x2 I always thought if we had the turbo in the IC location,with Ac deleted and IC headers it should give up more room for bigger turbos IDK. Good thinking either way tho youngstr

Here is an example;
http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/hot-air-non-intercooled-tech/187051-conversion-pics-questions.html

Don't mean to dampen anyone's enthousiasm and the NICE thing about these cars are:
1 - Not much has changed, mechanically, i.e., Not much "new stuff"
2 - Not much has changed mechanically, i.e., Most things have been thought of, and tried.
3 - The factory HA configuration has been in the 10's (Boost 231, Turbo6X2). - How fast do you want to go?