Pitbull bites, deflates North Carolina deputy's tires

[bison]

"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)

The Clifton study of attacks from 1982 through 2006 produced similar results. According to Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes were responsible for 65% of the canine homicides that occurred during a period of 24 years in the USA. (Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006)"

"Dog bite deaths and maimings US and Canada (1982-2007)
By compiling US and Canadian press accounts between 1982 and 2007, Animal People News determined the types of breeds most responsible for death and serious injury.
The combination of pit bulls, rottweilers and wolf hybrids:

* 77% of attacks that induce bodily harm
* 73% of attacks to children
* 83% of attack to adults
* 70% of attacks that result in fatalities
* 77% that result in maiming

Interesting fact about pit bulls:

* Pit bulls attack adults nearly as often as they attack children, a characteristic not found in any other breed."

You're living in dreamland if you think pit-bulls aren't a dangerous breed.
There is a mountain of data which spells out the same things I've clipped above. Do a google search.

Animals aren't people, they operate on instincts bred into them. Obviously there is a bell curve for breeds of dog from docile to aggressive and it's clear from the data that pit-bull's curve is to the right of average.

You cant argue with those stats. Thats why homeowners pay extra for their insurance premiums if they own one of those breeds. Any owner can say that the dog is non aggressive but it doesnt matter since the statistics are there. I have never been involved in a motor vehicle mishap and ive been driving for 16+years and probably about 750k miles. I however get no special rate on my insurance. Its still based off the stats of other drivers in my range. I have friends that own those breeds and they even tell me they dont trust the dogs around other people. They realize the risk. Any animal can attack at any time.

 

[bison]

Maybe it has something to do with the mixture between the bloodline and the way its raised but who really knows?

!

Yup. It could be raised in the best possible environment and still attack someone for no reason.

 

[413turbo]

i'm not shocked about the tires. we used to have a shop rott at the corvette shop where i worked. that dog would chase mice and rats, if they ran up the wheelwell, he would bite the tire and it'd pop. happened all the time. never had a break-in either.

 

[stack1]

Yup. It could be raised in the best possible environment and still attack someone for no reason.

That is only true if the dog in question takes a dominate role over that person. Any dog, regardless of breed, that thinks they are higher up than a particular person can bite for a variety of reasons. But if you've trained your dog to be submissive to all people, they won't bite. They can't go after someone that has dominance over them. When our dog is eating, our 5 pound cat will jump in there and eat out of his bowl at the same time. Even that cat has dominance over him because we taught him his place. People that spoil their dogs and set no rules are actually giving up dominance to their dog. That's the type of dog that will bite because it will act like the alpha instead of the owner. Our dog is an American Bulldog but he gets lumped into the pitbull category.

 

[The Blob]

I heard Obama plans to take away our Pit Bulls... which is why I'm stocking up.

 

[bison]

That is only true if the dog in question takes a dominate role over that person.

It could take that role in an instant and bite someone even if it never did before. Ive heard of many bites and more than a few the owners claimed the dog never showed any aggression toward anyone before. You never know for sure. Not all dogs will be able to be trained as submissive as yours either.

 

["Turbo-T"]

I used to live but 15 minutes from Hope Mills, a dog biting the cop car tires, that's just too funny.

But someone's dog chewing off baby's toes...that's wrong....

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

+1 and im still calling BS on the tire deflater. No good area on a tire to get any jaw leverage unless its a dirtbike tire and the pressure required to puncture a tire is most likely more than the dog can exert. Id like to see the holes. Wouldnt the cop notice the sound of the escaping air and check to see wtf is going on? BS flag is flying high

I got the keys to my GN, my GS, my wallet, and all the cash I have laying here right now (about 10 grand), that my dog would deflate the tire on your car bison... I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just ABSO****ING LUTELY sure, that it's a fact.
I got everything I own, that if you brought your car over, and I said "Dio!, what's this! What is this?!!" while pointing to your tire, that it would be deflated inside of 5 minutes....
Dio's already deflated my bike tire, and my ex girlfriends dads truck tire.

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)

The Clifton study of attacks from 1982 through 2006 produced similar results. According to Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes were responsible for 65% of the canine homicides that occurred during a period of 24 years in the USA. (Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006)"

"Dog bite deaths and maimings US and Canada (1982-2007)
By compiling US and Canadian press accounts between 1982 and 2007, Animal People News determined the types of breeds most responsible for death and serious injury.
The combination of pit bulls, rottweilers and wolf hybrids:

* 77% of attacks that induce bodily harm
* 73% of attacks to children
* 83% of attack to adults
* 70% of attacks that result in fatalities
* 77% that result in maiming

Interesting fact about pit bulls:

* Pit bulls attack adults nearly as often as they attack children, a characteristic not found in any other breed."

You're living in dreamland if you think pit-bulls aren't a dangerous breed.
There is a mountain of data which spells out the same things I've clipped above. Do a google search.

Animals aren't people, they operate on instincts bred into them. Obviously there is a bell curve for breeds of dog from docile to aggressive and it's clear from the data that pit-bull's curve is to the right of average.

Those stats (based off of people who THINK certain types of dogs are pitbulls, when they are actually another breed. something VERY common in the media) are like that, because pitbulls, AMONG OTHER BREEDS, are the breeds chosen by thugs and low lives. So now it's the dogs fault? The DOGS aren't "mean". It's the owners that make 'em that way. POODLES would have this same exact press, if every drug dealer in america started buying them, and making them mean as well. You'd hear of many poodle bites each year, and then they'd start to be demonized in your eyes, just as the press did these dogs. For every pitbull bite, there's a cocker spaniel bite, a chow bite, a german shepherd bite, a belgian malinois bite, a rottweiler bite, and so on, and so forth. But pitbulls make for better press for some reason, so they chose to highlight that, and not the others, because it doesn't fit their agenda.
ALLLLL dogs bite people. ALLLLL dogs get into fights with each other (so do we. should we 'put down' everyone that gets into a bar fight? I think we should) So now, because a pitbull got into a fight, he's a terrible vicious killer, and he should now get lumped in with Stalin and Pol Pot? A pointer can bite 2 kids, and get into a fight with 3 neighbourhood dogs, and it's ok. But let a pitbull get into a fight, see what happens. The entire press will come down, and make it look like you're a dog fighter, and your dog's a trained killer. That's ****in bull****, and I'm soo sick of it. Most of you have never even TOUCHED one, let alone owned one, and all of a sudden, you read a few unproven statistics, and now the dogs went from normal animals, to terminator pets in your eyes... That's just stupid. Quit thinking like sheep.
The reason I'm like this, is because I'm a convert myself. I always thought they were stupid, and just bred for fighting. After I started dating this girl, I got to know the breed, cuz every one of her family members had at least one or two. I was cautious at first, but after doing some research, and spending a lot of time with them, I realized that they were just a dog like any other. They're not trained killers. They're dogs. It's the owners you have to watch out for. Rage, Dio, Baby, Sissy, Chaos, Rudy, and the rest of the family are all very nice dogs, were raised around many children, and hadn't bit a single person yet in all these years. Statistically speaking, at least one of us should have gotten bit by now...
You always hear of the bad stuff, but never of the good stuff. That's unfair and biased. What about this stuff? Read ALL of it...

Pit Bull saves 2 women from deadly cobra, dies wagging his tail - 2007-03-01
Pit Bull Saves Man's Life, Dies a Hero
Pit Bull Saves Woman's Life written by dog trainer
Hero pooch saves 7-year-old Queens girl
Stray Pit Bull Saves Woman, Child from Attacker
FOR PITS' SAKE // Search & Rescue

And lastly, here's a site I want you to go to. Pet Pitbull - Find the Pit Bull
Be honest. Find what you think is the pitbull. I KNOW you'll get it wrong... So now, how many of those "pitbulls" you see in the attacks in the news, are actually "pitbulls"? I'm willing to bet quite a few....
How many dogs can you actually count on, to watch over you? And fight for you when it's necessary? How many dogs would have sacrificed themselves for their owners? Not many, as they are usually too stupid, or physically weak to do so. I LOVE ALL dogs. Every single one of them, both big and little. And have owned quite a few. But none of them have the intelligence, AND the power, at the same time, necessary to help ya out when ya need it. Would your silly ass little golden retriever ward off an attacker that's attacking your child in the backyard? No, because I'd slap the **** out of him, and that would be that. Could one drag you out of a house during a fire? No, because those "nice little harmless" dogs don't have the courage and/or intelligence to understand what's happening at that time. And even if they did, what's a retriever going to do. Drag a 180 pound person out of the house? My ass... He'd lick you to death, but that's about it.
As far as companions, ALL dogs are awesome. I'd probably have a hundred if I could. But as far as makin' **** happen when it needs to happen, I don't trust any other dog around. None of them have both the smarts and the determination to do anything about it. I can't rely on a dog like that.
I can carry my pistol when I need, but honestly, I carry a gun enough for work. I don't really feel like carrying one again off duty... When me and Dio are goin for a run, or a walk, or for a game of softball, I feel a hundred percent safe. Against ANYone or thing. Bar none. Cuz I KNOW, without a doubt, my little Dio will get **** done. He's like a special operations dog. Other dogs don't stack up.
Ok, they bite. ALLLL dogs bite man... But because these bite, now they're evil like Darth Vader and ****. " Yea, but when they bite, it's usually bad." So now it's their fault then... So penalize THEM because they're born strong.. Ok, I'll do that. If bison gets the same penalty for being stronger than anyone else in this site... Fair is far man...
(providing that's him in his avatar)

 

[8AV8]

Any animal can attack at any time.

So what makes a pit different?

The media.

Ask people who have owned them...not read the paper.

 

[TURBOPOWERED68]

Those stats (based off of people who THINK certain types of dogs are pitbulls, when they are actually another breed.

Lots of good points Dude.

 

[8AV8]

"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)

The Clifton study of attacks from 1982 through 2006 produced similar results. According to Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes were responsible for 65% of the canine homicides that occurred during a period of 24 years in the USA. (Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006)"

"Dog bite deaths and maimings US and Canada (1982-2007)
By compiling US and Canadian press accounts between 1982 and 2007, Animal People News determined the types of breeds most responsible for death and serious injury.
The combination of pit bulls, rottweilers and wolf hybrids:

* 77% of attacks that induce bodily harm
* 73% of attacks to children
* 83% of attack to adults
* 70% of attacks that result in fatalities
* 77% that result in maiming

Interesting fact about pit bulls:

* Pit bulls attack adults nearly as often as they attack children, a characteristic not found in any other breed."

You're living in dreamland if you think pit-bulls aren't a dangerous breed.
There is a mountain of data which spells out the same things I've clipped above. Do a google search.

Animals aren't people, they operate on instincts bred into them. Obviously there is a bell curve for breeds of dog from docile to aggressive and it's clear from the data that pit-bull's curve is to the right of average.

This is from the CDC website:

Although the recent report by Mr. Weiss and colleagues[1] provided a national estimate of 333,687 dog bite injuries treated in emergency departments (EDs) each year and other work has estimated approximately 17 deaths annually from dog bites,[2] we know of no national estimates of hospitalizations for dog bite injuries. The Health Care Utilization Project (HCUP) database maintained by the Agency for Health Care Policy and Research contains standardized hospital discharge summaries (including diagnoses, external causes of injury, and total hospitalization charges) for all hospital discharges from 904 sampled hospitals in 17 states. When weighted, the data provide national estimates.




Put the kool aid down. Just because google says it doesn't mean its true. Ask a vet, the dog catcher , or somebody that works in an emergency room how many of the dog bites they see are from pits compared to other breeds.

 

[8AV8]

It could take that role in an instant and bite someone even if it never did before. Ive heard of many bites and more than a few the owners claimed the dog never showed any aggression toward anyone before. You never know for sure. Not all dogs will be able to be trained as submissive as yours either.

But Jim, thats true for ANY breed of dog.

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

The girl I dated's brother, Mike, has 2 staffordshire terriers (american pitbull terriers) along with everyone else in the family.. for YEARS..... And ya know what sent him to the hospital across the street? (macomb general in warren michigan) A chow chow. His own. It ****ed him up BAD. The hospital across the street said, and I quote "That's the worst dog bite we've ever seen..."
Not a ONE of the 8 or so pitbulls that family owns, EVER put ANYone in the hospital...
The great thing is, I don't ever have to lock my doors, or sleep with my gun. That was the BEST, more secure sleep I've gotten since before 2004 (iraq). Sleepin' with a gun gets old, REAL quick. Sleepin' with Dio and Sissy NEVER gets old. They're really cool buddies. They're the perfect pet. They're like your own secret service, only cuter and more fun

 

[bishir]

I own a 195lb dog I wouldn't own a Pit or Rotty. They don't bite, they kill. How many kids have died from one that has never bitten anyone before? I remember a story about a husband coming home and finding his wife dead with Pits jaws around her neck.

I don't think they should be banned, but if someone insists on having one then they should be held 100% responsible for that dogs actions.

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

How many kids have died with their parents hands around their necks? Don't you guys get the feeling that dogs are somehow just a distraction for what's really important?