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tybob

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hi , i change my set up for a news turbo but whitch one ? i am i little bit cunfiuse:rolleyes: i don't make drag whit the car just a very fast street car !and some time strip but 2-3 a year not more !

pt67gtqbb or pt70gtqbb any sujestion ! and what is the difference betwing the gt6776gtqb and the pt6776gtqb

here my news set up:

gardle 109
j&e forge piston
70mmtb and dog house
champion iron heads pp whit ferrea big valve
champion intake pp
champion 1"spacer
champion fuel rail
75 pound inj and aeromotive a1000 fuel pump
stock crank 10/10 heat treated
arp bolt and stud
t/d roller rocker
212/212 comp cam
dubble roller chain
3" th d-p
pte intercooler
rjc poulie
alky
gen 6 fuel manegement
art carr 2004r tranny

now i have 3800 9 "art carr stall but whant to change for the new set up !

any idee:D

thanks tybob
 
Ok, first off, there is no such thing as a 6776gtqb and here's why.

67 = 67mm inducer compressor wheel
76 = "P" 76 trim turbine wheel
gtq = GT-Q 80 trim turbine wheel
b = no earthly idea
So, you can see that your part number would indicate that it would have two turbine wheels. Not trying to be picky or mess with ya, it's just I have seen people make this very same mistake before, and I know that the numbering system can get very confusing. Especially with this new PTE turbo listing that just came out.

The difference between gt and pt is this, Full Throttle calls their turbos gt, and Precision, who makes the turbos, calls them PT.
There is no difference between a PT6776H and a GT6776H turbo, just the letters. The first question you have pertaining to the pt67gtqbb & the pt70gtqbb, is going to be a hard question to answer because no one has either of these turbos on their cars yet who have posted results that I know of. Both of these turbos were just recently listed on PTEs updated turbo listing. There are people on here that currently have the PT70 GTQ dual ball bearing turbo on back order as we speak. The official part numbers off of PTEs new listing for these two turbos that you are asking about are,

6780RH This shold be a PT67 GT-Q dual ball bearing turbo with a standard H compressor cover, and a .85 A/R 3-bolt turbine housing.

70HPQRH This should be the PT70 GT-Q dual ball bearing turbo with an H compressor cover, and a .85 A/R 3-bolt turbine housing.


Now, there is such as thing as an HB designation in the part number, but that only means that the compressor cover is an H cover with a 6" inlet bell pressed onto the inlet. And it will not work on a stock location oriented 3-bolt setup.
But for what you have listed in your combo, and depending on how fast you want to go, here's my take.
The PT6776RS will take you easily into the 10.40's with what you have listed done to your combo, and will spool way too fast with a 3800 converter.
The PT6780RH or 6780RH as PTE lists it, would surely go into the 10.00s and not nearly spool as lightening quick as it's P-trim turbine wheel equipped brother.
The PT7080H or 70HPQRH as PTE lists it, will go mid 9's and still spool up very well with your 3800 stall.
Now, with 75#ers, you have enough injector to safely make 900 fwhp, if basing a turbo decision on your injectors, then the PT6780RH would be a better match for the injectors. If you're looking for something that's basically going to be un-controllable as far as spinning tires on the street with your converter, then the PT6776RS would be the ticket.

In my opinion, with your combo, I would go with the PT6776RS, or the PT6776RH and have fun. You would be able to lower your stall on the converter to flash stall to 3300-3400 and still spool up this turbo very fast.
As soon as people start getting these new ball bearing equipped 67GTQ through 76GTQ turbos on their 3-bolt Buick applications and start posting results, we will all be more the wiser.
Again, not trying to be smart or anything, just saying what I know. Hopefully we will get more answers soon from PTE about these new 67-76 GTQ ball bearing series turbos.
Hope this helps.

Patrick
 
not trying to be smart or anything, just saying what I know.


well you know enough to be smart! Listen to pat, he knows what time it is :)

Pat, I got hooked up with a p trim 66dbb, .85 ex with an S cover. Thanks for the turbo info it really
helped me make my decision!

Darkside
 
hi patrick,

sorry for the parts number but ill try to find the difference whit those turbo ......now i know ,is very hard to know when the same turbo have 2 defferente parts number :rolleyes: but whit what you expland to me i very understand bether ;)

thanks for all your answer is very appreciate !

you told me about the PT6776RS is a good turbo for my set-up but i have a larger stall......i also have a orange stripe 12" stall is is better to go whit this one or buy another one !

very appreciate your time patrick

thanks :biggrin:
 
No problemo tybob.
Honestly, if I had to choose between the AC 9" or the 12" Orange strip, I would send the AC back to Art and have him tighten it up. I've said it before, and I'll keep preaching it, anything we can do to remove rotating mass from the crank, helps. Whether it be a billet crank pulley from RJC, or a 9" or 9.5" converter.
I do not recommend putting that 12" orange stripe back on the car. For one, getting it to flash stall to the point that will make a 6776RS or 6776RH turbo spool up decently will take you a couple of tries, and second, you would be adding about 20-25#s of unwanted weight back to your rotating assembly. You could have that AC restalled to flash stall to 3200 and you'd be golden. IE: very fast spool up. If I ever have to buy another converter, it will be another Art Carr from the real Art Carr. ;) Good deal XxDarkSidexX, you're gonna have fun.
Hope some of this helps.

Patrick
 
turbo choise

hi , i change my set up for a news turbo but whitch one ? 70HPQRH or PT6780RH

here my news set up:

gardle 109
j&e forge piston
eagle rods
70mmtb and dog house
champion iron heads pp whit ferrea big valve
champion intake pp
champion 1"spacer
champion fuel rail
75 pound inj and aeromotive a1000 fuel pump
stock crank 10/10 heat treated
arp bolt and stud
t/d roller rocker
212/212 comp cam
dubble roller chain
3" th d-p
pte intercooler
rjc poulie
alky
gen 6 fuel manegement
art carr 2004r tranny
7 1/2 quater oil pan

now i have 3800 9 "art carr stall but whant to change for the new set up !

any idee:D

street and strip car like to run low 10" or faster

thanks tybob

;)
 
i think i take the 70HPQRH but i sold my art carr stall...who make a good stall to go whit this turbo and my set set up !......i try to call cal hartline to buy my news stuff but is hard to talk whit him !:frown:
 
Sorry tybob. Try this number (321)863-2303. It's always with me.
 
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