Stealthy alky??

[gn85]

Hey y'all,

First let me say thanks to everyone for all the interesting threads and posts... I'm kicking around trying alky. I know there are plenty of alcoholics in here hooked and I'm sure I'll be next. I'm planning a summer project and this just might be it. I'm working on a slight budget so I'm not looking for anything FANCY. Even a $150 DIY kit will do the trick But I'm really interested in keeping this thing stealth. I've seen pics of the washer tank being used as the alky tank... clever. Now, I'm looking for something subtle for the nozzle in the up pipe. It's not very often that people look under the hood of my car, but I don't want to hear "HE'S RUNNING NITROUS" the second I life the hood.

Any pics or sites would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Oh, in case you read the signature.. this is on an 85 with an 87 DT. Don't want to confuse.

 

[salvageV6]

Look for pic.s of Mark H's. setup they should be around here under nozzle in the intercooler or some such search.

He needed a check valve for his radiator overflow tank setup but no biggy.

Or email him for pics.

 

[YGETV8]

Hi Chris,

I have done two IC outlet neck dual SMC nozzle installs and this hides it pretty well. Still visible, but doesn't jump out and say "Hi!" I discovered that it is much easier to install them and hides just as well in the back of the neck instead of "under" the neck like my first one. Click on my link, then click the small motor to link to the second page... I have a pic or two of the first IC install there.

Good Luck!

 

[gn85]

Thanks for the replies,

Jay, that's an interesting place to put the nozzles. How did you manage to drill into there? It doesn't look easy. I'm planning on doing a DIY kit. Was it difficult to drill into the IC? Also, I've heard of the problems with the alky draining into the IC, did you have this problem?? Fix??

I'm thinking of only going single nozzle. I see you used SMC nozzles.. any other nozzles to consider?

Sorry for the slew of questions. Just getting everything ready for my summer project.

 

[Red Regal T]

Originally posted by gn85
I'm working on a slight budget so I'm not looking for anything FANCY. Even a $150 DIY kit will do the trick

CHRIS, SPEND AS MUCH AS YOU WANT, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ON THIS FORUM THAT IS ANY BETTER. EVERYTHING ELSE IS OVERKILL WITH MORE PARTS TO BREAK OR MALFUNCTION. STEVE MONROE'S DIY IS SOLID, DEPENDABLE, AND PROVEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

IF THERE WAS ANYTHING BETTER, I'M SURE SOMEONE WOULD TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. I'VE ASKED MANY TIMES. CHECK THE POSTS. CLAIMS ARE MADE WITH NO BACKUP EXPLANATIONS.

IF YOU WANT STEALTH, I'M SURE YOU WON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE ACCOMPLISHING THAT.........EVEN WITH A $150 DIY KIT.

 

[YGETV8]

John, I concur in spades! I have had great luck in the past with the basic DIY kit (see T-Type portion of signature), but one thing I did learn, at least in my case, was that it was very hard to tune when I switched to the newer style Walbro "Ford pickup" pump. Too much pressure (100 psi+)! I tried all kinds of combos of single and dual NOS nozzles and various jets on my mid-12 second GN and just couldn't get it tuned. That is when I made the jump to the SMC controller and nozzles. I never looked back! My only "backup explanation" is that I really enjoy having the in-car tunability!

Chris, To "drill" I actually had to use a die grinder with a ball carbide burr cutter and "grind" the holes in it. I had no way to drill into such a tight area. No, it was NOT easy! That is why I mounted them in the back at about the same level for my second install. Not a problem drilling back there. For the SMC nozzles, you only need to drill... for NOS nozzles, you'll need to drill and tap. It is kind of an oddball size tap, too, but the actual process isn't too bad to do. The SMC nozzles are not jettable, which necessitates the use of a pump speed controller to change the levels of alky you are injecting. The NOS nozzles are jettable. I have no siphoning or draining problems... the "Ford" pump must have a good internal check valve. FWIW, to duplicate my DIY kit would cost about $240 I believe. If using the NOS nozzle(s), I would recommend using the SureFlo pump as it operates at about 60 psi and that seems to work great with them, but you may need an external check valve with this one... not sure. HTH!

 

[gn85]

John,

I was just making a good joke. Trust me, I'm convinced on your $150 DIY kit. That's pretty much the route I'm going. I just haven't posted much here in the alky forum. I've been sitting back and reading carefully, looking up all the different links about peoples kits. Just had to raz ya about the $150 DIY KIT!!!


Jay,

Thanks again for your reply. AHH.. that's how ya got the nozzle there. Hrmm.. I guess behind the IC or in the 'normal' location will be where I go. Also, thanks for the information about pumps. That's also been my 'concern' and I think you helped me make my decision. I'm not going to be making this kit until August (when I get back) so I'm doing all my homework now. Last thing I need to do is decide which nozzles to go with. Thanks for all your information.

 

[Red Regal T]

HEY! I WAS RAZZED!

HEY JAY.......I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE FACT YOU'RE USING A 100 PSI FUEL PUMP IN YOUR CAR. OBVIOUSLY, THIS MODIFICATION CAUSED YOU A PROBLEM WHILE USING THE DIY. I'M GLAD YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH YOUR CURRENT SYSTEM. I HOPE IT KEEPS ON KEEPIN' ON!

AS FAR AS "IN CAR TUNEABILITY", I HAVE TO SAY, FOR FOLKS STILL MULLING OVER WHICH WAY TO GO, THE DIY KIT DOESN'T NEED ANY. SINGLE .030 JET HANDLES MOST. I'M RUNNING A .032. JUST SET THE PUMP ACTIVATION BOOST LEVEL ON THE PRESSURE SWITCH, USUALLY BETWEEN 10 TO 15#s OF BOOST AND THAT'S IT. I HAVE AN OFF/ON SWITCH, A COUPLE LIGHTS ON MY DASH THAT GO ON WHEN THE PUMP IS ACTIVATED, AND A "TEST" BUTTON TO ACTIVATE THE PUMP MANUALLY. PUMP SPEED IS NOT NECESSARY.