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c&cgn

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Just bought an electric Autometer temp gauge for the tranny. What is the best way to plumb it in? The speed shop where I bought it says there are 2 choices for install kits. Anyone have an idea what the best way to do it is?

Thanks,

Clayton
 
Originally posted by c&cgn
Just bought an electric Autometer temp gauge for the tranny. What is the best way to plumb it in? The speed shop where I bought it says there are 2 choices for install kits. Anyone have an idea what the best way to do it is?

Thanks,

Clayton
I'm not a transmission guy but I have an opinion..... I think the 2 choices you have are either pluming it into the output line from the transmission (into the cooler) or in the pan. Personally my suggestion is in the output line. The fluid is picked up through the filter and put into the converter where most of the heat is generated. Not sure but I think temps can reach like 300 out of the converter. It's then sent through the cooler and back into the transmission where it is routed to the valve body for distribution to the clutches, then back to the pan. So, you can put it into the pan but you are not going to read the max temp in the transmission. Also, the hot fluid coming out the transmission is mixing with cooler fluid that has been sitting in the pan. If you have a finned or deep pan your fluid in the pan is going to be cooler than that coming out of the transmission so you are not going to see a temp change as easily.

Personally I'd put it in the output line of the transmission since this is your hottest temp and if the transmission fluid temp is going to spike because of a failure or as an indication of trouble I'd think this is where you are going to see if first and in it's most dramatic fashion. Could also be like Buick Oil pressure and you really don’t want to see what is really going on…. J
 
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Art! as this is what we do...

http://www.2004rperformancecenter.com/mcartfree/product.asp?intProdID=116

You want to measure working trans temp not just fluid temp waiting in a reservoir to be used, pan temp is inconsistent and coverter out temp is not true trans temp as it is what the tc is generating not trans. we believe cooler return is the most accurate and consistent place to measure what the trans is actually running. :D
 
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Originally posted by PTS XTREME
Art! as this is what we do...

http://www.2004rperformancecenter.com/mcartfree/product.asp?intProdID=116

You want to measure working trans temp not just fluid temp waiting in a reservoir to be used, pan temp is inconsistent and coverter out temp is not true trans temp as it is what the tc is generating not trans. we believe cooler return is the most accurate and consistent place to measure what the trans is actually running. :D
Probably true, somewhere in the middle is probably the true temp.

But the thing is the chicks will dig it if you run it in the pre-cooler line cause the gauge will move more and you can tell them, "my car is Hot, baby!" :D
 
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Originally posted by TurboDiverArt
.... But the thing is the chicks will dig it if you run it in the pre-cooler line cause the gauge will move more and you can tell them, "my car is Hot, baby!" :D

That's funny... LOL!
 
I have my sending unit in the pan. I feel after talking with dynotech that it's not that big of a deal where you install it. That being said, if I were to do it again I would use the PTS cooler hook up so as not to mess up the pan.
 
Originally posted by b231v6
I have my sending unit in the pan. I feel after talking with dynotech that it's not that big of a deal where you install it. That being said, if I were to do it again I would use the PTS cooler hook up so as not to mess up the pan.
Certainly if you know your car you're OK. All things being equal, if your trans is heating up it'll eventually heat the fluid in the pan, it might just take a little longer and be less pronounced. Putting it in the lines it going to give you a better indication that something it up sooner I would imagine. If Eric says it's OK in the pan, who am I to argue!
 
I think we're talking opinions here as far as location, the bottom line and I think we all agree, is having a gauge and being able to keep an eye on what the temp is doing. :D
 
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Originally posted by PTS XTREME
Art! as this is what we do...

http://www.2004rperformancecenter.com/mcartfree/product.asp?intProdID=116

You want to measure working trans temp not just fluid temp waiting in a reservoir to be used, pan temp is inconsistent and coverter out temp is not true trans temp as it is what the tc is generating not trans. we believe cooler return is the most accurate and consistent place to measure what the trans is actually running. :D

Then that's how I'll do it.

What sort of temps should I be looking for? IE what is good and what is the danger zone? I believe the gauge goes from 100*-250*.
 
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Originally posted by c&cgn
Then that's how I'll do it.

What sort of temps should I be looking for? IE what is good and what is the danger zone? I believe the gauge goes from 100*-250*.
Above 250 on the cooler side of the cooler would be bad... :D

I believe the temp coming out of the converter is in the 300-degree range. In the stock application it was only cooled by engine water, which was probably in the 150 range in the right side of the radiator. Not knowing the efficiency of the radiator water-cooled method, stock temps coming out were probably in the 180 range? I’m sure smarter transmission type people can comment/correct. With a cooler, depending on if you are pre-cooling it with a stock radiator I'd think that the temp out of the cooler would be maybe around 140? Someone confirm this as I'd be very interested in knowing. I think the operating temperature of the trans fluid is something like 170 or so.

As a side note, for all us aluminum radiator people without the benefit of being able to pre-cool the trans fluid before going into the cooler, what's a good temp going into the cooler (from converter), and coming out (back into trans) when not cooling with radiator? I assume it’s the same regardless with or without a radiator but what’s a good number to shoot for? BTW, I’m interested in with a THM400 transmission. I don’t know if the converter and trans temps are different with a THM200R but would be interesting to know if they were different.
 
160-200 normal driving and 220-250 short spurts hard driving should never really run 200+ for any lenght of time and you'll be safe.
 
I am using a stand alone cooler. It is the largest cooler Long offers. I read temps. on the return line and never saw fluid temps. above 170* in 90* heat. My guage starts at 100* and does not move above 100* in the winter months
 
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This piece is much simplier to do than the Autometer manifold that I used for my car. And much cheaper.

I put mine on the output line, I figured that would be reading the max temp. It has scared me a few times with a N/L converter after WOT blasts. But I know it is not the temp of the whole trans.



Originally posted by PTS XTREME
Art! as this is what we do...

http://www.2004rperformancecenter.com/mcartfree/product.asp?intProdID=116
 
I am installing a cyberdyne one and will put it just before the cooler as you all say. Quick question though, what temps should I look for, what should it be at, what is too hot and what is DANGEROUS??? For the tranny, wanna keep an eye on the tranny so she dont get too hot.

Scott
 
Originally posted by Scott4DMny
I am installing a cyberdyne one and will put it just before the cooler as you all say. Quick question though, what temps should I look for, what should it be at, what is too hot and what is DANGEROUS??? For the tranny, wanna keep an eye on the tranny so she dont get too hot.

Scott
I’ll let the experts who actually build these things tell you temperatures, I’d be interested too. I think it also depends on what you are doing with the transmission. You have it before the cooler so you are getting the supper heated fluid after it comes out of the converter, at least with a TH-400 you do. I’d think the temperatures should be the same for a TH-400 and TH-200R. I know if you have a trans brake on the car temps are going to soar very quickly when on the brake. One book I read stated that with a really high HP car a TH-400 can increase trans temps 100 degrees per second. Naturally you’re continually pulling in cooler fluid from the pan so the trans temp gauge isn’t going to go up by that much. Foot brake won’t raise it that fast I’d imagine.

I just bought one of those Perma-cool remote filter/gauge combo from summit. $89 dollars well spent! Filter is huge, as big as my remote oil on the stage car!

I mounted my filter after the cooler. Did this because I have one of those funky stacked plate coolers and I know from my trans tear-down that there was metal in the trans from when the converter sprag let go. Staked plate coolers, although really efficient, are known for capturing things in the cooler. I put the filter after the cooler so if there is stuff in the cooler I can catch it on exit. I flushed the cooler for about an hour but I still don’t trust it.
 
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