Just wondering what the added benefits are with going Translator PLUS route rather than just the regular translator. Is it worth the 100 dollars extra? What kind of tuning can you do with it... Just wondering cause I may be moving up to an LT1/LS1 MAF soon...
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It's *similiar* to the oem chip, but has some patchs in the code to do things other then what GM wanted. Like Anti theft, and launch assist. The launch assist allows you to spool the turbo when power braking, and then the second the car actually moves, you have about full boost (about will vary with your actual mods).
There are probably 3,986,423 opinons on this.
To me, I want to use one system just to make sure there are no conflicts. I use a Translator Plus, and an extender chip. The problem is to use the late MAF to it's full potential means using the extender to be able to read to 500 gm/sec.. If you want to stick with the ME fine, but your not getting all you can resolution wise as compared to the TPlus.
For the money I'd go with the Plus. That way you'll have all the bases covered in all cases. The ME will give you fuel control and the TPlus fuel and timing. tuning a buick without having contril of your timing, IMO is like fighting with one hand tied behind your back.
YMMV
FWIW
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The MaxEffort works very well with the Translator. Save your money and buy the regular Translator. The ME will outperform the Extender/Tranlator plus. Remember that the Translator is made to replace the standard OEM so there is no problem in using a ME chip with it if the Translator performs as advertised and it normally does.
There are not but two opinions on this.
Those who use the ME with the Translator know it works very well. Those who do not have an ME really do not have a clue. Just remember that the ME is designed for ultimate performance and tho it provides outstanding drivability and good gas mileage, it is an open loop chip that is not intended to pass stringent emissions testing.
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Get the + with the maxeffort it allows timing control which is a weak point of the maxeffort chip only 2 choices in my case.
Almost unlimited with the Translator +.
Not that I play with timing too often.
....."plus version adds timing control tothe unit. It hooks up to the spark timing wire and then youcan set up the timing curve to suit your cars need based onchanging conditions. "
Go to Ramchargers website it actually tells you all about how it works.
Should you decide to change chips someday the extender can be easily used with the + version. I have used both.
Prefer the Maxeffort with T+ at this time. Have a new TurboBob extender to test out however.
Almost unlimited with the Translator +.
Not that I play with timing too often.
....."plus version adds timing control tothe unit. It hooks up to the spark timing wire and then youcan set up the timing curve to suit your cars need based onchanging conditions. "
Go to Ramchargers website it actually tells you all about how it works.
Should you decide to change chips someday the extender can be easily used with the + version. I have used both.
Prefer the Maxeffort with T+ at this time. Have a new TurboBob extender to test out however.
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Hey Bob, so far all the parts I have gotten from HR Parts have been top notch. I put the good arms in the mostly stock GN but so far so good, Nittos went on that car yesterday. Didn't hop before after the arms shouldn't now either.
I liked the poly mounts so much I put them on both cars.
Bought the HRParts boxing kit for salvageV6 with the greaseable bushings and my welder/mechanic said they went together great.
Monte guy who works there part time wanted a set.
I'm going racing for the first time Friday, prolly just use the maxeffort for that.
Your extender chip goes in after that excursion.
Oh those dyno. numbers you see were on a mix of pump gas and 103 unleaded and alky. 24psi.
Good luck with your alky. kit. Don't forget to sign up for AA.
I liked the poly mounts so much I put them on both cars.
Bought the HRParts boxing kit for salvageV6 with the greaseable bushings and my welder/mechanic said they went together great.
Monte guy who works there part time wanted a set.
I'm going racing for the first time Friday, prolly just use the maxeffort for that.
Your extender chip goes in after that excursion.
Oh those dyno. numbers you see were on a mix of pump gas and 103 unleaded and alky. 24psi.
Good luck with your alky. kit. Don't forget to sign up for AA.
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Originally posted by salvageV6
Get the + with the maxeffort it allows timing control which is a weak point of the maxeffort chip only 2 choices in my case.
Almost unlimited with the Translator +.
Not that I play with timing too often.
I don't see the weakness. I am over 4000 rpm within a split second of launch and after shifting am never under 4500 rpm.
That does not leave much range to vary the timing over during wot blasts. It's one of those things that sound good to the tuners but, in reality, has very little affect on going faster.
The base timing change could be useful when changing qualities of fuel I think. On the other hand, how many times is this a problem for the average person? Bells and whistles cost money. If they make you go faster, that's fine.
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Yeah! I have noticed that! Just like some people don't even own one of things they put down or even have looked at some sections of the code when they comment on it. LOLOLOL
And some tune and tune and tune, and don't go very fast.
And some tune and tune and tune, and don't go very fast.
Like I said, there are various OPINIONS, to some timing is no issue, BUT to others they want to have the option of being able to change the timing. IF I want to add or run race gas, I can twist a rotary switch and change my timing from one pass to the next..
Yep, And then some admit it when they miss something, learn from it and move on, unlike those that continually misquote something even when they've been shown, they're in error.
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Originally posted by bruce
Yep, And then some admit it when they miss something, learn from it and move on, unlike those that continually misquote something even when they've been shown, they're in error.
You mean like learning that the lv8 overrides tps?
Or do you mean learning that some might waste their time changing the high end even if lv8 overrides it? Factory was pretty smart, it seems.
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Geez.
I just prefer the buy once theory for the thing. I have 18 and 20 in my MaxE. chip with alky. If I want to try 22* I just do it with the translator + rather than get it reburned etc. Plus it works with the Extender chip which has a lot of good drivability and Race options built in.
Just my .02. Now play nice.
I just prefer the buy once theory for the thing. I have 18 and 20 in my MaxE. chip with alky. If I want to try 22* I just do it with the translator + rather than get it reburned etc. Plus it works with the Extender chip which has a lot of good drivability and Race options built in.
Just my .02. Now play nice.
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Yep, for those that want, and know how to play with such things, it could be interesting.
Originally posted by Steve Wood
You mean like learning that the lv8 overrides tps?
Or do you mean learning that some might waste their time changing the high end even if lv8 overrides it? Factory was pretty smart, it seems.
If your talking about the PE code:
In the PE code, the is a selectable % TPS enable, but there is a min LV8. If the min LV8 isn't meet, then it defaults to a higher TPS, for PE enable. At no time does the LV8 over ride the TPS, they are equal weight, both must be meet in the initial enable for PE. If the LV8 isn't meet there, then, there is a default for a higher TPS for it to enable PE. It's all in the code if you want to read it. In this area nothing overrides the other, they are just various parameters that must be meet.
As far as your second sentence goes, it's anyone's guess about what your talking about.
Don't recall anyone saying they weren't. But, they were shackled with the EPA, and bean counters.
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