vigilantie vs. pts 9x11

[mojilla]

I am looking on buying a converter. I have heard many good things about both converters. Does the 9x11 have as good as street manners as the vigilantie? Who thinks the 9x11 is better or vise versa?
thanks
joe

 

[RickWI]

I run a 9X11 and it is very nice and extremely streetable. I had an Art Carr prior to this.

 

[HOTTOGO]

Type 9X11 in the search box you wil find your answer there has been a couple recent surveys already.

 

[TurboDave]

Could be tough finding very many that can honestly answer that. There are a lot of folks running vigillantes and a lot of folks running the PTS 9x11.

Problem is, there probably aren't too many that have run both, switching from one to another (that gets pricey, unless you've broken one or the other and have to make the switch).

 

[qwknuf6 jr]

1)Steetablity:Tie ,both are very steetable and avalable in different stalls , one free stall change within one year

2)Price: 9x11 is the winner ,595.00 vrs 1100.00 for the PI conv.

3)Performance: Tie , performance seems to be the same
the PI conv may have a slight edge in lockup durablity on high HP cars but have not put the 9x11 to the full power lock up yet

IMO I would go for the 9x11 , it is a very good steetable conv @ a fair price

One side note , the PI multi disk Lock up conv is a little noisey @ idle , I think the clutchs are banging together

 

[TurboDave]

Originally posted by qwknuf6 jr
1)Steetablity:Tie ,both are very steetable and avalable in different stalls , one free stall change within one year

2)Price: 9x11 is the winner ,595.00 vrs 1100.00 for the PI conv.

3)Performance: Tie , performance seems to be the same
the PI conv may have a slight edge in lockup durablity on high HP cars but have not put the 9x11 to the full power lock up yet

IMO I would go for the 9x11 , it is a very good steetable conv @ a fair price

One side note , the PI multi disk Lock up conv is a little noisey @ idle , I think the clutchs are banging together

The durability would be my only question. I ALWAYS lock mine at the track at about 80 mph, right after the 2-3 shift. My stock converter only lasted one season. After three seasons/converters, I went to the PI multi disc hoping it would have the durability advantage.
So far so good, two seasons and no noticable difference or loose of lockup efficiency.

Anybody that really has put the 9x11 through the wringer like I would have any input on it's durability?? That single 1" wide clutch disc would be my only worry.

 

[mojilla]

Thanks for the replys, I am still trying to make up my mind.
Joe

 

[WE4]

The new billet ones have a 2" carbon fibre disc and here soon it will be a 3"


For 95% of you a 9x11 will work and give you the results you are looking for. Besides, You get to talk directly to me. Actually, converter costs 100 bucks but the time with me on the phone is the other 495.00 ROFLMAO!!!!



The Billet ones are gonna be hard to beat and even at 725.00 they are a deal.

I went to the billet version to prevent copies from surfacing and now , well, you know me, couldnt leave well enough alone.


Bruce
WE4

I am not selling just discussing...........

 

[qwknuf6]

Originally posted by TurboDave
The durability would be my only question. I ALWAYS lock mine at the track at about 80 mph, right after the 2-3 shift. My stock converter only lasted one season. After three seasons/converters, I went to the PI multi disc hoping it would have the durability advantage.
So far so good, two seasons and no noticable difference or loose of lockup efficiency.

Anybody that really has put the 9x11 through the wringer like I would have any input on it's durability?? That single 1" wide clutch disc would be my only worry.

Dave
I will once i get all the parts working on my car ,I have a 9x11 and have went 10.32 without locking the T/C ,I will put the 9x11 lock up clutch to the test .

Red Arm.does not think the lock up will hold ,Bruce T say's it will work ,

 

[KIDDBOOST]

I realize this was not ask, but Ihave been very pleased with my YANK...just food for thought

 

[qwknuf6]

Yank ,Yank I cant belive you said Yank

I to have heard ,but never used , good things bout Yank

 

[KIDDBOOST]

Married with 8mos old baby, so I have to love my Yank

 

[REDS HOT AIR]

Originally posted by KIDDBOOST
Married with 8mos old baby, so I have to love my Yank

i've been testing my 9-11 clutch out since i got it going again and if its slipping i cant tell cause my checks are wraped around my ears in high gear .. 130+ this weekend..

 

[boostedLC2]

Another option is the new Yank 258 mm converter (i.e. 10"). It's a billet, locking converter with very good efficiency numbers. It drives like a 12" converter, until you nail it. Mine has a 3500 stall at 5# boost and first time out with it a couple of weeks ago I got a 1.49 60'. Just another option to consider.

Jim

 

[tom h]

Originally posted by TurboDave
I ALWAYS lock mine at the track at about 80 mph, right after the 2-3 shift. My stock converter only lasted one season. After three seasons/converters, I went to the PI multi disc hoping it would have the durability advantage.
So far so good, two seasons and no noticable difference or loose of lockup efficiency.

Apparently the Vigilantes are available with 5 and 3 disc setups. Which one are you using?

In general, what are the tradeoffs of 1 vs 3 vs 5 disc?
Harsher shifting, or ???

 

[TurboDave]

Originally posted by tom h
Apparently the Vigilantes are available with 5 and 3 disc setups. Which one are you using?

In general, what are the tradeoffs of 1 vs 3 vs 5 disc?
Harsher shifting, or ???

Mine is one of the older one's. I believe it's the 7 disc model

The tradeoffs? Durability mainly, and lock holding under extreme Horsepower loads is the other.

Doesn't make the shifting any harsher because the ECM unlocks the TCC during shifts. The only way to keep it looked through shifts is a manaul switch, and I neither use nor believe in that method. There's no need to lock the TCC in second gear anyway. the gains are minimal, and the wear and tear far too hard to justify it.

 

[gndriver]

Where can i get more info on the yank converter?

 

[WE4]

www.converter.cc

 

[gndriver]

Thanks bruce