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Well see your definition of mastery skills and mine are a bit different. ;)

My D-Max has chip, filter and exhaust. I wish I could say it runs 12s with the minimal work but it doesn't. But it probably does run somewhere in the 14s and is enough the beat a Mustang GT on the street. Ask the one I left in a huge plume of black smoke three weeks ago. :D The bottom line is that the truck goes much faster than I feel safe about when the time comes to slow down 7000+ pounds. But that's really moot because its a truck and a truck is a poor platform for a hot rod.

You can tow a car across the country on an open deck trailer. I can tow mine in my enclosed 24' hauler (8,000lbs) driving all day long on a tank of fuel. I'd probably pass you 2 or 3 times at the pump but I'd be ahead of you the whole way. ;)

Your stepside box can haul a bed of mulch home. My long box dually would haul two of your boxfulls at a time.

My DMax laughs at my 13,000 5th. The Lightning can be pushed up to maybe 7000....never enough to even pull my cars to the track. :(

My DMax can go off-road, where it actually sees frequent use. How far would your truck get off road?

My DMax is a machine in the Winter, which is most of the year up here. A RWD truck of any sort is not high on anyone's list for Winter driving.

So my point is that for a very narrow niche vehicle the Lightning is great. But push the envelope of what a light duty truck is capable of at this point in time and the Lightning doesn't make it very far up the scale. It reaches its limitations as a pickup truck far before those as a sports vehicle. At least for those of us who use trucks for their intended purpose. ;) Still neat vehicles, and I am not trying to start a flame war. If it was a little faster or capable of a little more as a pickup truck I'd still have mine. And if you happen to fit in the niche it was designed for then there is nothing else that even comes close.:cool:

Then again, my DMax cost almost double what a Gen2 does, and new vehicle prices are the single reason I will not buy a new performance car. Come to think of it, the Lightning was stupidly cheap for what it did. A nicely equipped single cab short box 4X4 costs about the same. There, I said something good about a Lightning. Maybe they'll let me back in NLOC now. ;)
 
Well, that's what the Lounge is for - discussions like these.

Let me add the following:
My 2000 L has just about every bolt on available. Long tube headers, cold air, single blade TB, 94 octane chip, larger intercooler or "heat exchanger", 2500 stall converter, shift, kit, high flow cats, 90 mm MAF, straight through magnaflow muffs, traction bars, cold air kit, 3.73 gears (3.55 was stock for 2000) on and on and on. It's lowered all around. I run 14psi with my pulley mods. I also run around on really sticky Toyo rubber. I put out gobs of power, and I have more traction than I'll ever have in my TR. Supposedly, This truck ran 12.10's ONCE on drag radials with a 1.7x short time (not with me driving). Based on my seat time, I think that would be at the ragged edge, but who knows. I'm not a drag racer.

I love my truck, but I hate it because of the following:

1. It responds well to mods, but the fuel economy is downright comical. I couldn't make my WE4 as bad on gas as this L is. I mean, it seems like you pay a disproportionate price in fuel economy as mods are added when compared to other motors and vehicles out there.
2. I am not happy with the Lightning aftermarket. I thought it would be more robust than it is. I know that they're fairly new vehicles and what not, but you seem to be operating in the blind more with an L. Throw a lot of bolt ons at it and go. And chips? Try like $350 and up, and then they want to dyno the hell out of your truck all day to do it. Give me a break with the dyno pulls already. Don't dyno my truck for a 93 octane street chip - everybody has the same bolt ons, and everybody goes to the same tuners. Pull the file and burn my chip. Don't add years of abuse to my motor with a dyno pull. And people monitor detonation with their ears - that seems to be the norm.

Other observations: it doesn't handle as well as everybody thinks, the interior is crappy (for a 33k truck). It does get more attention than my TR, but that's just because I have a WE4 and everybody thinks I'm driving a blacked-out monte carlo with aftermarket wheels.

The one positive, in terms of price, is that they hold their value, so you won't get hit with a lot of depreciation when you flip it. I bought mine used because I couldn't, and still can't, justify the price new out of the dealership.

The guys on the Lightning boards are great, however, and they respect our Buicks much more than we respect their Fords.

These are just my humble opinions. I'm bored at work and just felt like typing. Not trying to start any wars, etc. I just thought it might add to the discussion. Every vehicle has its pro's and cons, and I just thought that I could add a unique perspective since I'm fortunate enough to own my WE4 and a Lightning.

Rich
 
Hmm. You guys have some interesting points about the Lightniings. I haven't had a bad experience with mine yet. I have an 02' and I love it. Damn thing ran a 13.07 in the winter air STOCK and in all but the hottest/humid conditions will run 13.X. I get about 14.5mpg which isn't the best but there are a lot of trucks in that range that don't even come close to the performance of a Lightning. I guess in the end its all about what YOU like. I like my interior just fine. If I had to recommend one thing for improvement it would be a sportier steering wheel....oh and more aggressive sounding muffler. It is true that they are not for everyone.
 
I like the exhaust just the way it is thank you :)

They did an awesome job with the exhaust. Bolt on some loud catback and don't gain any power. I love it as quiet as possible.

I also like the interior. Beats the hell outa the Chevy insides.
 
I thought the interior was very nice. Just don't get any dirt on the suede leather seats. ;)
 
Originally posted by TurboDave
17 Seconds??

We just took my Son-In-Law's Lightning out to the strip (Milan) a few weeks ago.
In bone stock (right off the showroom floor virtually) trim, it ran two 14.18's and a 14.12.
Not bad for a big old heavy F150.

And I love the sound of that supercharger screaming in there!!

What the?!?!?! :eek:

Your Son-in-Law's Lightning????? Uhmmm, I think YOUR DAUGHTER owns half that baby!!!! I feel sooo forgotten

:(

:D
 
Originally posted by TurboMichelle
What the?!?!?! :eek:

Your Son-in-Law's Lightning????? Uhmmm, I think YOUR DAUGHTER owns half that baby!!!! I feel sooo forgotten

:(

:D


DOH!!!! :D
 
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