10% going to 15%

[Razor]

EPA Delays Ethanol-15 Decision Until Next Summer | Specialty Equipment Market Association

Gas price stays high.. they cut it with ethanol "up to 10%" gas mileage goes down.. you get less MPG with ethanol.. now they want to cut it down to 15%

No comment..

 

[pdzz]

I haven't been able to find a station around my area that sells gas with out any ethonal! Robbing us blind!!!

 

[forcedfedv6]

One way or another they are going to get their money and squeeze every last dollar out of our pockets.. :frown:

 

[DailyDrifter]

When I get gas at this one place, and it has no ethenol in it at all.

 

[Razor]

Marine 93 has no ethanol. That ends here in Jan next year

 

[forzfed]

I love the ethanol blended gas, but we also have mtbe in ours to give an extra kick. Apparently it's banned in the States.

 

[pdzz]

The problem is how much their charging us!! Ethanol is a bunch cheaper and their cutting gas and charging the same !!

 

[ijames]

Maybe they figure that if they kill the few gas gauge sensors that survived the 10% ethanol by going to 15%, no one will notice the worse mileage? A friend who runs an auto shop says he has replaced a steady stream of pickups over the last couple of years that were killed by the alcohol. Gauge will just start reading full all the time, or sometimes empty. He says more pumps than normal have also died, but not nearly as many as the gauge sensors.

 

[Eticket]

Retail gas prices (ethanol or not) are actually more demand/supply priced than people think. And.. those prices do change by the minute. Ethanol prices are based on a corn crush spread, so it is priced differently than pure gasoline. Therefore the diff between regular unl and blended unl can change often enough.

anyway...

If you actually get to a station that has pure gasoline (Oklahoma law makes stations post their fuels) you can see the price difference between the gasoline and blended fuels. Ethanol is cheaper (was .18 per gal cheaper last I filled up in OK).. but my 400 mile drive home netted almost 3mph in a 1999 GMC Sierra. What an amazing difference!

By trial and error, I've found that the Chev station near my house has netted me the best mileage, so I fill up there, hoping that it's more-pure gasoline. TX has no law about posting fuel blends.. I wish this were a federal law.

 

[injdinjn]

Ethanol blends in some States is subsidized therefor cheaper.

In the socialist republic of Calif. we get whatever the idiots at CARB allow the stations to sell.

MTBE is more cancerous then the lead it replaced. Surprised anyone, even Canada, is using it. Of course Canada has govt health care so maybe if people die off faster the medical costs wont be so high.

 

[NM Tom]

The government wants as much ethanol mixed as possibile. The 30% reduction in gas mileage means we have to buy 30% more fuel, thus 30% more the government can collect in gas tax. Always follow the money...

 

[Razor]

The government wants as much ethanol mixed as possibile. The 30% reduction in gas mileage means we have to buy 30% more fuel, thus 30% more the government can collect in gas tax. Always follow the money...

+1

Locally the BP that sold it ethanol free was at the same price as the ethanol/gas mix stations.

Buy gasoline at two different stations and pay the same per gallon.. one gives you more MPG.. easy choice. And less possibility for corrossion issues.

Gotta love it.

 

[The Radius Kid]

The government wants as much ethanol mixed as possibile. The 30% reduction in gas mileage means we have to buy 30% more fuel, thus 30% more the government can collect in gas tax. Always follow the money...

Uh huh.
Which begs the next question:

Where's the benefit in CO2 reduction to the environment?

Since you burn more fuel to do the same amount of work.....

 

[aminga]

Uh huh.
Which begs the next question:

Where's the benefit in CO2 reduction to the environment?

Since you burn more fuel to do the same amount of work.....

Ethanol is added to reduce NOx. They used to use MTBE for that but MTBE started turning up everywhere.

 

[dr_frankenstein]

so how long do you think stations that sell "100%" unleaded are going to last?

we have 8 stations in town that there fame claim is 100% unleaded....

its gonna break my heart to see it go.

A.j.

 

[TURBOPOWERED68]

Doesn't NY have 10% and NJ 15% already mixed in?