it may be that bruces 9 11s are made different than ours although they come from the same place.,truth is that bruce did testing for rusty in the beginning of the 9/11s creation/development. bruce and i recently spoke about this subject Iwill say that we mainly use protorque because of their quality and proximity to our shop if a problem or restall concern is necessary.also we get some custom stuff that the general buying public certainly does not.but we have never had a failure with a 9/11 from tcs in three years of dealing with them .our main item that we purchase from them is input shafts and intermediate shafts for non 2004r transmissions.sometimes price is determined by overhead and a bigger company with a larger payroll has every right to get compensated for what they sell. hey lee ,i hope in all sincerity that you are not looking to start any situations on the board and maybe you should call bruce or me before posing questions in public view that may generate negativity here,something you are very well aware of.but judging from your past post and replies concerning me it sure looks like this question was posed to generate some KOUTOUMARES.go to the wizard of oz and ask for some courage or maybe a brain and stop trying to be a tuff guy when your a chump.see you at the track tuff guy.when you see the cars with ckperformance stickers come and ask for me im always at the track with my customers.