Are you running mid-11's with stock bottom end??

[87LtdT]

Or said another way...when should one consider installing steel caps??

Thanks, Bob

 

[BABY BOEING]

Running 11.6's with a stock long block.

 

[TurboDave]

Me too. Stock block (and internals), heads, intake and exhaust (except THDP).

 

[Chris Taylor]

Kevin Wood's unopned 30,000 mile T runs low 11's. I have ran low 11's with several stock bottom end TR's.

 

[Grumpy]

Melissa's an several others

 

[strikeeagle]

Here's something to think about. Whether it's true or not, I leave to you.

The bottom of the block is weak. A girdle is better than caps, but both are best. Pulling the motor and installing a girdle and caps is a big job, resulting in major expense.

If you're going to go that far you might as well get in line for an aluminum block, or a stage block, and put your 109 block on an engine stand in the corner of your garage.

 

[qwknuf6]

Originally posted by 87LtdT
Or said another way...when should one consider installing steel caps??

Thanks, Bob

Right before the stock center (2-3 ) cast caps crack , if you have the motor out for "any reason"and you plan on racing install the billet caps ,girdles are for girls

 

[Grumpy]

ahhhh Melissa's motor is gettin a girdle an new pistons as we speak....guess Ill have to tell her she needs an aluminum block

 

[REDS HOT AIR]

11.16 @ 127 on stock botom end but getting girdled now and best go low 10's at 130+

 

[Chris Taylor]

Your all over it Red! The girdle is good insurance. When will you have it going? Good luck.

 

[J Banning]

I've gone 11.38 on the motor I'm running now... it's a .040 over block, hypereutectic pistons, 2 dot rods, and a N/A crank. I've been running between 11.38-70 all this season (50 runs +).

However, I have another motor that I WILL have at least the two center caps put in, if not a girlde as well. Email Jason Cramer and see what he says.

RJC Racing
jason@rjcracing.com
http://www.rjracing.com

-Banning.

 

[S2V6RACER]

Run good gas and leave it alone. If you detonate it and can't tune it properly, you may have issues prematurley.

 

[REDS HOT AIR]

Originally posted by Chris Taylor
Your all over it Red! The girdle is good insurance. When will you have it going? Good luck.

trying to go make a pass nov 1st at virginia motorsports park but it will be just finished put back together so it will basically be a test pass before i head to mir on the 10th of nov and give it he**

 

[turbodave231]

How about a 10.83 on a stock bottom end (including pistons)?!
I've been going 11 teens for 3 years now on the same rebuild.
No caps or girdle on my motor.

Dave Roland

 

[Buicksx2]

FWIW my wife's Blue T has gone 11.48 with a stock bottom end, no caps and a non turbo (NA) crank, of course car is always kept full of 116 leaded with good O2's and no knock.

HTH

 

[Mr URL]

Both my cars have bone stock bottom ends. One mid 11's and other low 11's. Not sure how long though before boom. Important thing is no detonation. I am trying to get my T-Type high 10's once then back off to mid 11's unless I decide to girdle it.

 

[WFO]

fwiw,geno ran 9.9 @ 136 with 2 billet mains and no detonation..the short block is in my dad's garage.

later,sean

 

[REDS HOT AIR]

Originally posted by WFO
fwiw,geno ran 9.9 @ 136 with 2 billet mains and no detonation..the short block is in my dad's garage.

later,sean

and the top end is in my buddy's spare bedroom...

dont forget the first block broke after 4 passes in the 9's

 

[REDS HOT AIR]

Originally posted by turbodave231
How about a 10.83 on a stock bottom end (including pistons)?!
I've been going 11 teens for 3 years now on the same rebuild.
No caps or girdle on my motor.

Dave Roland

hats off to ya your car is rollin for stock longblock

 

[blackbuick87]

Originally posted by turbodave231
How about a 10.83 on a stock bottom end (including pistons)?!
I've been going 11 teens for 3 years now on the same rebuild.
No caps or girdle on my motor.

Dave Roland

Dave who built that motor for you?

What is the approx cost of a girdle AND caps?