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Steve V

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Just did an entire fuel line replacement on a 95 Suburban with nylon lines. Figured I would try it on a buick as well.

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Here what somebody did to the stock fuel line. I am replacing it from tank all the way to the front crossmember. New tank, pump, hotwire; injectors and chip. Orginal tank was rusty.

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Forgot pics..

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Jeez, lots of patches and splices in that old setup. New setup looks very nice!
 
Looks really nice. Just curious on what type of hose that Is ? Is it compatable with E85?
 
Looks really nice. Just curious on what type of hose that Is ? Is it compatable with E85?
Yes it is dorman bulk 3/8 hose. I believe the sell 1/2 as well. It is a bit tough to get over the fittings. They recomend hot water. I used a heat gun to soften the line and warm. The steel. Work good when you have leverage. Not so good when you don't.

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Hear are the pics. I had to move the fuel filter forward to route the line inside the frame. I did not think the body bolts would come out without breaking so I chose this as an alternative solution. Also about half as much than ss steel lines.

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Nice Steve.
This is a cheaper alternative that going with AN fittings/Braided line.

Was thinking of using the hose you used and running it straight from the Fuel Sender to the Fuel Regulator, of course with one cut for the fuel filter. The return line will go straight from the Fuel Sender to the Fuel rail on passenger side. Thinking of cutting the steel line going to Regulator and the steel line for return at the rail about 7 inches from the fittings and slipping the hose over it.

Thoughts?
 
Nice Steve.
This is a cheaper alternative that going with AN fittings/Braided line.

Was thinking of using the hose you used and running it straight from the Fuel Sender to the Fuel Regulator, of course with one cut for the fuel filter. The return line will go straight from the Fuel Sender to the Fuel rail on passenger side. Thinking of cutting the steel line going to Regulator and the steel line for return at the rail about 7 inches from the fittings and slipping the hose over it.

Thoughts?
Think it will work just fine. Get 50ft hose so you have plenty to practice on.

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Odd. I've owned two cars that use those lines and they like to get brittle and crack. One, luckily was a return line and only hosed down 1,3, and 5 on my 94 Blazer, the second pressure washed the bottom of my replacement Blazer and put it on a wrecker. No way I'd put that stuff on my car by choice.


I upgraded and replaced them with plain 'ole 30R9 for a permanent fix.
 
Odd. I've owned two cars that use those lines and they like to get brittle and crack. One, luckily was a return line and only hosed down 1,3, and 5 on my 94 Blazer, the second pressure washed the bottom of my replacement Blazer and put it on a wrecker. No way I'd put that stuff on my car by choice.


I upgraded and replaced them with plain 'ole 30R9 for a permanent fix.
You do know that lots of OE mfgs use the same line. No recalls because of it either;)

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I do. They were OE lines that cracked on me. I'm also thinking the stuff GM uses is probably a higher quality than Dorman replacement line.

I'm all for being different, but I think I'll stick with lines that's worked for around a century instead of stuff that's proven to get hard and crack over time.
 
I do. They were OE lines that cracked on me. I'm also thinking the stuff GM uses is probably a higher quality than Dorman replacement line.

I'm all for being different, but I think I'll stick with lines that's worked for around a century instead of stuff that's proven to get hard and crack over time.
It is all good Earl. I was not looking for approval just tossing this out there.

I did not use that stuff under the hood and I've been working at a GM dealer for quite a while and the cracks splits are usually under the hood not under the car or at the tank. Usually those problems are from rodents that get hungry.
 

Just for your information on lines: 5/16" is the tank vent line. Low pressure. Replacement: Standard fuel line is ok. Spring clamp.
1/4" line in the center of tank is fuel return. Low pressure. Replacement: Standard 1/4" line is ok. single breeze style hose clamp at all rubber to steel connections.
3/8" line is fuel feed line. High pressure. Replacement: Very good 3/8" fuel injected hose. Two breeze style clamps at all rubber to steel connections.

Not stealing Steve's excellent work here.....just info on stock fuel line sizes on the GN at the fuel tank top.

Good work, Steve.

Bruce '87 Grand National
 
Steve, don't forget to put that heat shield over those lines to protect from exhaust pipe heat.

I do have to agree with Earl, though.....plastic will crack over time.....plus, rodents do have a bad habit of chewing on plastic.......now ask me how I know that?:p As I even catch mice in my garage and they do such a good job nibbling on plastic stuff on my cars.......fricken little rats.:rage: And found a real nice mouse nest in the back area of my Corvette......thoughtful little critters used insulation from under my dashboard for a nice, cozy, warm little nest. I served him with an eviction notice. He has 30 days to evacuate the premises.........

Bruce '87 Grand National
 
Steve, don't forget to put that heat shield over those lines to protect from exhaust pipe heat.

I do have to agree with Earl, though.....plastic will crack over time.....plus, rodents do have a bad habit of chewing on plastic.......now ask me how I know that?:p As I even catch mice in my garage and they do such a good job nibbling on plastic stuff on my cars.......fricken little rats.:rage: And found a real nice mouse nest in the back area of my Corvette......thoughtful little critters used insulation from under my dashboard for a nice, cozy, warm little nest. I served him with an eviction notice. He has 30 days to evacuate the premises.........

Bruce '87 Grand National
Hey Bruce,I had a problem with mice and if you go to walmart in the spice section and get a couple of bottles of peppermint oil.Soak several cotton balls with it and toss around baseboards in garage they will leave.You can put one in the car also.They are allergic to it and will not come near it.
 
Hey Bruce,I had a problem with mice and if you go to walmart in the spice section and get a couple of bottles of peppermint oil.Soak several cotton balls with it and toss around baseboards in garage they will leave.You can put one in the car also.They are allergic to it and will not come near it.

AWESOME!!!! Then that's exactly what I'll do per your suggestion! Thanks a million for this idea..........I'm the type of dweeb who does not kill living thing.....it's just not my way.....thus I've been using those live traps where they go in to get the bait, but can't get out....only thing is I have to keep checking the traps all of the time.......

I also have two cats outside and live in a nice garage....heated, food, water, electric blanket for cats in the cold....plenty of warm places to live out of the cold, but they've become too spoiled to cat mice anymore.....why should they? They live like KINGS!:cat:

I will definitely use your idea.........going to Walmart later this week. Thanks so much. A very humane way to get rid of the little creatures!

Bruce '87 Grand National
 

AWESOME!!!! Then that's exactly what I'll do per your suggestion! Thanks a million for this idea..........I'm the type of dweeb who does not kill living thing.....it's just not my way.....thus I've been using those live traps where they go in to get the bait, but can't get out....only thing is I have to keep checking the traps all of the time.......

I also have two cats outside and live in a nice garage....heated, food, water, electric blanket for cats in the cold....plenty of warm places to live out of the cold, but they've become too spoiled to cat mice anymore.....why should they? They live like KINGS!:cat:

I will definitely use your idea.........going to Walmart later this week. Thanks so much. A very humane way to get rid of the little creatures!

Bruce '87 Grand National
I went and bought some more yesterday as it has been close to a year since I put it down.I have not seen the first mouse since then and no more little turds everywhere.
 
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