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nordy racer

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Guys,

i'm looking for a appraiser that knows what we own and will review all my receipts and appraise the car as is. my current value is about 3 years old and i'm looking to update before i head to the insurance agent. does anyone know or have used a appraiser in this area. Please post up their name and number.

thanks everyone,
mike
 
nordy racer said:
Guys,

i'm looking for a appraiser that knows what we own and will review all my receipts and appraise the car as is. my current value is about 3 years old and i'm looking to update before i head to the insurance agent. does anyone know or have used a appraiser in this area. Please post up their name and number.

thanks everyone,
mike


I went to AAA, they said 30 but I can only drive it 5,000mi a year.
 
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nordy racer said:
Guys,

i'm looking for a appraiser that knows what we own and will review all my receipts and appraise the car as is. my current value is about 3 years old and i'm looking to update before i head to the insurance agent. does anyone know or have used a appraiser in this area. Please post up their name and number.

thanks everyone,
mike
I have an official Gary Wells appraisal on my Regal ! Spoke to him the other day & also said I was going to convert it to a stick shift & install a SBC .Just to get a reaction. He almost had a coronary attack & forbid me to ever bring that up again! LOL
 
Nordy:
I can maybe get you a name of a very good appraiser here locally but it might take me a few days as I have to do it by E-mail. Good luck on this as every post that I have ever seen of appraisals boils down to most of the insurance companies have about the same rules and qualifications for this and some of their rules are stupid to say the least. Limit mileage, can't drive to work, some won't because of the cars age, or lack of it, etc., etc.,
 
turbolou said:
I have an official Gary Wells appraisal on my Regal ! Spoke to him the other day & also said I was going to convert it to a stick shift & install a SBC .Just to get a reaction. He almost had a coronary attack & forbid me to ever bring that up again! LOL
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Well, actually I was thinking that would be an insult to the SBC & stick shift.
J/K, Lou. Hey, I remember that. When I said to keep it below $10K value, I meant the whole car including the motor, not just the motor.
 
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Wells said:
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Well, actually I was thinking that would be an insult to the SBC & stick shift.
J/K, Lou. Hey, I remember that. When I said to keep it below $10K value, I meant the whole car including the motor, not just the motor.
Have you been drinking !
 
turbolou said:
Have you been drinking !
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Only when I am alone or with somebody.
Drinking......... I wish.
I am just following your progress on the car, Lou. Looking forward to seeing what kind of HP, times, & trap speeds you get out of the car.
 
Wells said:
Nordy:
I can maybe get you a name of a very good appraiser here locally but it might take me a few days as I have to do it by E-mail. Good luck on this as every post that I have ever seen of appraisals boils down to most of the insurance companies have about the same rules and qualifications for this and some of their rules are stupid to say the least. Limit mileage, can't drive to work, some won't because of the cars age, or lack of it, etc., etc.,

Thanks Wells.. i have talked to State Fram and everything will be covered at the agreed price when i get the appraisal.. i think my monthly bill is going to be $30 a month for a 30K value..

i really don't care about the miles, last year i put on about 300miles if that..
 
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Wells said:
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Only when I am alone or with somebody.
Drinking......... I wish.
I am just following your progress on the car, Lou. Looking forward to seeing what kind of HP, times, & trap speeds you get out of the car.
Dear Gary! If alcohol is not the issue than surely it must be drugs LOL, appreciate your enthusiasm also. My goal is good drive ability & reliability. My present setup should be enough to run 10's but I'm reluctant to go all the way & ruin a nice car. Basically I'm doing some R&D on my own car instead of using my customers for guinea pigs & trying to have some fun also.I want this car perfect for the next owner with enough pocket personality comes along. For now I wish to be regarded as 10's capable. Lou
 
Mike-- make certain you are talking to your SF agent about the right kind of policy...I'm not sure if this is still the case, but the physical damage coverage on SF's Limited Use/Class Car form used to be worded such that the stated value of the vehicle (usually documented through appraisals, which the SF agent's underwriter back in their Bakersfield regional office would evaluate) established a ceiling and not a floor, which is a huge difference. In other words, in the event of a loss you would receive up to a maximum of $X, not just "Sorry for your loss, here's your $X" straight out of the starting gate. This put the onus on the insured to have their appraisals updated on a yearly basis. The liability premium was typically 25% of the norm, which is where most of the premium discount came from. Again, that was then, perhaps changes have occurred since.

Have I approached my SF agent regarding this coverage? At one point I did so, yes. However, it became clear to me that the intent or "spirit" of the program is to cover pristine examples of vehicles such as that 30K-mile '86 GN that was parked next to you last Saturday at Donut Derelicts, or something like Gary's car, or a cherry old Gran Sport that gets taken out once a month, and not a highly modified or virtually all-out race car such as what we have. Quite frankly, if SF or AAA insured one of our GNs for $30K on a "here you go, no questions asked" basis, that would be clear evidence to me they haven't a clue what they're insuring. To take this one step further, if an appraiser told me my GN was worth $30K, I'd tell him he was full of crap, because it isn't. None of our cars are, with "our cars" intended to mean the typical vehicles we have and not some mega-dollar Stage-motored 8-sec racecar, or a GNX. The cost of modifications doesn't necessarily add value, and insurance is intended to cover casualty losses, not market losses.

Very few on this board know what I do for a living, or who my clients are. I will say that whenever I visit some of them (whose names you'd instantly recognize) I am shocked at the lack of underwriting expertise and their inability to evaulate a risk. And no, I do not work for the California DOI.
 
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Drip Pan said:
Mike-- make certain you are talking to your SF agent about the right kind of policy...I'm not sure if this is still the case, but the physical damage coverage on SF's Limited Use/Class Car form used to be worded such that the stated value of the vehicle (usually documented through appraisals, which the SF agent's underwriter back in their Bakersfield regional office would evaluate) established a ceiling and not a floor, which is a huge difference. In other words, in the event of a loss you would receive up to a maximum of $X, not just "Sorry for your loss, here's your $X" straight out of the starting gate. This put the onus on the insured to have their appraisals updated on a yearly basis. The liability premium was typically 25% of the norm, which is where most of the premium discount came from. Again, that was then, perhaps changes have occurred since.

Have I approached my SF agent regarding this coverage? At one point I did so, yes. However, it became clear to me that the intent or "spirit" of the program is to cover pristine examples of vehicles such as that 30K-mile '86 GN that was parked next to you last Saturday at Donut Derelicts, or something like Gary's car, or a cherry old Gran Sport that gets taken out once a month, and not a highly modified or virtually all-out race car such as what we have. Quite frankly, if SF or AAA insured one of our GNs for $30K on a "here you go, no questions asked" basis, that would be clear evidence to me they haven't a clue what they're insuring. To take this one step further, if an appraiser told me my GN was worth $30K, I'd tell him he was full of crap, because it isn't. None of our cars are, with "our cars" intended to mean the typical vehicles we have and not some mega-dollar Stage-motored 8-sec racecar, or a GNX. The cost of modifications doesn't necessarily add value, and insurance is intended to cover casualty losses, not market losses.

Very few on this board know what I do for a living, or who my clients are. I will say that whenever I visit some of them (whose names you'd instantly recognize) I am shocked at the lack of underwriting expertise and their inability to evaulate a risk. And no, I do not work for the California DOI.
Drip Pan! since you brought it up! What exactly do you do? It has been my understanding that you manage a bath house in Laguna Beach ? Please elaborate as to clear up any confusion. Best regards Lou
 
Ah yes, my new day job. Well, business at the sheep farm was going rather briskly until the ASPCA showed up one day and shut me down. Apparently the sheep I'd been selling to what I thought was a kind old farmer in Montana turned out to be some South County adult movie producer marketing "Sheep Gone Wild" videos out of some storefront in Lake Forest, and the sheep were underage. ;)

I mean, how could he....?
 

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Drip Pan said:
Ah yes, my new day job. Well, business at the sheep farm was going rather briskly until the ASPCA showed up one day and shut me down. Apparently the sheep I'd been selling to what I thought was a kind old farmer in Montana turned out to be some South County adult movie producer marketing "Sheep Gone Wild" videos out of some storefront in Lake Forest, and the sheep were underage. ;)

I mean, how could he....?

Nice, soft wool. Heh-heh, heh-heh...
 
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Drip Pan said:
Ah yes, my new day job. Well, business at the sheep farm was going rather briskly until the ASPCA showed up one day and shut me down. Apparently the sheep I'd been selling to what I thought was a kind old farmer in Montana turned out to be some South County adult movie producer marketing "Sheep Gone Wild" videos out of some storefront in Lake Forest, and the sheep were underage. ;)

I mean, how could he....?
Great come back. Wish I was so well educated. As the saying goes Sheep Happens!Or in your case any sheep in a storm!LOL
 
Wells said:
Nordy:
I can maybe get you a name of a very good appraiser here locally but it might take me a few days as I have to do it by E-mail.

Gary.. any luck on tracking down that name....
 
nordy racer said:
Gary.. any luck on tracking down that name....
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Mike, I haven't heard back from the guy that had the appraisal done, I will get back with him this P.M. when I get home from work. Thanks for reminding me.
 
Wells said:
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Mike, I haven't heard back from the guy that had the appraisal done, I will get back with him this P.M. when I get home from work. Thanks for reminding me.

Thanks Wells....
 
Appraisaler in the area

Hey guy, you might want to call Mark Koch @ Automotive appraisal services group His phone # is 800-495-2525 or 714-693-2505 he is located in Yorba Linda, He has done a bunch of GN Turbo cars.

Steve Hurst, President-BGNRA
 
Classic Auto Appraisers.
www.classicautoappraisers.com.
(Jeff Hyman)
800-454-1313.
Mike: This is a direct quote inpart from a friend of mine that had a car appraised by the pesron noted above.

"Jeff really does a nice job. Don't know if prices have changed, but Jeff did the appraisal on my car here at home and it was $50.00 if I remember correctly."
 
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