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seems like a decent deal, I learned the hard way about not fully inspecting cars, I wouldnt buy a car in the dark & I would never buy one without seeing it or @ least test driving it.. " I flew to michigan to look at a convert 67 camaro tht was suppose to be in great shape " Long story short I got there & it had a whole in the trunk the size of a watermelon.. covered up of course, guess the guy didnt think I was gonna look...
 
First off my name is Mike Dopkins NOT!! Mike Dobbs. I'm not going to get into you and Shawns phone conversations or the parts issue. I just know Shawn was one PI--ED off guy when he got the car and saw what the paint REALLY was and the bumper fillers. In fact him and I were on the phone when he pushed alittle on one of the faded front fillers and says holly s-it in just caved in. If I were you I think I'd just quit as your just digging your self a bigger hole as far as I'm concerned. You rant on why Shawn didn't buy a low mile mint GN for like $20,000. Well just for your information he just sold his 10,000 mile one. As I stated before Shawn's been around these cars for many years and has had them from beaters to mint low mile cars. What has the price got to do with the paint job? Whatever he paid for it and YOU excepted it (NO matter what you had in it he should get what he was told it was. PICS.?? and Iv'e always said this, I hate them. Yes I will agree the car looks great in the pics. but hell I can take pics. of almost anything and make the pics. look great. PICS.?? what has happened to a Mans Word?? And here are YOUR !! words::
The paint is perfect on the car but does need the rear bumper filler, it's cracked and faded (and then) everything is flawless). Now in your new post the paint is in great condition. Which is it great or perfect?? I'd say there's quite a difference between those two words?? I very seldom use the words perfect or mint as there aren't to many things that are as such. I'm going up to Shawns the first of the week to check out the lifter problem with him so I'll get to see this Perfect or Great paint myself. I believe Shawn 100% so it won't be a big surprise to me and I DO know paint. Car shows?? I still own the first GN I bought 18 years ago with 70,000 on it now with the original laquer paint on it that has won many, many Fisrt Place trophys (4 last year)and the paint on it is SHOT in my book. Looks damn good from 10 feet. Alot of those judges don't know what the hell they are even looking at when it comes to paint. I apologize for my statement of helping Shawn inject something as really he wouldn't need little ole me. He's one BIG !! redhead so go ahead and get all tuff behind your keyboard and just be thankful ole Shawn doesn't live nice and close by.
OH and by the way I did tell Shawn when he asked me about your car that your own last words :: ( I just want this thing gone before me and my wife get divorced over it!!!) SCARED!! me.

Grumpy, I agree with you 100%.
 
First off my name is Mike Dopkins NOT!! Mike Dobbs. I'm not going to get into you and Shawns phone conversations or the parts issue. I just know Shawn was one PI--ED off guy when he got the car and saw what the paint REALLY was and the bumper fillers. In fact him and I were on the phone when he pushed alittle on one of the faded front fillers and says holly s-it in just caved in. If I were you I think I'd just quit as your just digging your self a bigger hole as far as I'm concerned. You rant on why Shawn didn't buy a low mile mint GN for like $20,000. Well just for your information he just sold his 10,000 mile one. As I stated before Shawn's been around these cars for many years and has had them from beaters to mint low mile cars. What has the price got to do with the paint job? Whatever he paid for it and YOU excepted it (NO matter what you had in it he should get what he was told it was. PICS.?? and Iv'e always said this, I hate them. Yes I will agree the car looks great in the pics. but hell I can take pics. of almost anything and make the pics. look great. PICS.?? what has happened to a Mans Word?? And here are YOUR !! words::
The paint is perfect on the car but does need the rear bumper filler, it's cracked and faded (and then) everything is flawless). Now in your new post the paint is in great condition. Which is it great or perfect?? I'd say there's quite a difference between those two words?? I very seldom use the words perfect or mint as there aren't to many things that are as such. I'm going up to Shawns the first of the week to check out the lifter problem with him so I'll get to see this Perfect or Great paint myself. I believe Shawn 100% so it won't be a big surprise to me and I DO know paint. Car shows?? I still own the first GN I bought 18 years ago with 70,000 on it now with the original laquer paint on it that has won many, many Fisrt Place trophys (4 last year)and the paint on it is SHOT in my book. Looks damn good from 10 feet. Alot of those judges don't know what the hell they are even looking at when it comes to paint. I apologize for my statement of helping Shawn inject something as really he wouldn't need little ole me. He's one BIG !! redhead so go ahead and get all tuff behind your keyboard and just be thankful ole Shawn doesn't live nice and close by.
OH and by the way I did tell Shawn when he asked me about your car that your own last words :: ( I just want this thing gone before me and my wife get divorced over it!!!) SCARED!! me.

Grumpy, I agree with you 100%.

I'm glad you made yourself the expert on GN's.....oh and by the way, when did you actually see the car?
 
And how many times do I have to say this, Shawn was told the rear bumper filler needed replaced and it was stated in my ad!!!!!!!!! Geesh, this is like the twilight zone or something with the bumper fillers!
 
Ya know, I've had it with this crap:

"I apologize for my statement of helping Shawn inject something as really he wouldn't need little ole me. He's one BIG !! redhead so go ahead and get all tuff behind your keyboard and just be thankful ole Shawn doesn't live nice and close by."

This isn't the wild wild west anymore dumbass........moderators, know this...these posts are going to my local authorities for review. Shawn and Mike "Dobbs", be prepared for a phone call..........
 
And who's the Dumbazz?? Hope your authorities have good luck finding old Mike Dobbs. I'm shaking in my Wild West boots.
Iv'e came to the sad conculsion that you only don't know anything about engines you don't know ANYTHING !! about cars PERIOD. Now go ahead and flap your jaws all you want, I'm DONE.
 
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This is only a start I could post pics all day but I think this is enough to prove a point. Dean I would mind my manners if I were you. You could be looking at fraud charges if they start looking at this so do what you want. I Point proved enough said.
 

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I have a buddy who once bought a 70 gto. He was told all about it, and I personally knew the car. It ran good, but needed paint and interior, rim and tires, and all the other little things to make it look and run great. Turned out to have cracks in the frame around the a-arms on both sides. Turned out to be a total loss. He took the dude to court who he bought it from and lost for this reason: the car was sold
"as-is". Does not matter what was verbally said. You bought the car as is, done deal. The paint could use some attention, but overall, the car is "safe" to drive, has good tires and brakes, and is mechanically sound. Given the value of these cars, and the upgrades that have been done(oil leak or not) you still came out ok with your purchase from what I see. If you expected the paint to be in absolutely "PERFECT" condition on a 22 year old car, that HAS been driven...you were fooling yourself.

Sorry to be the bad guy, and its none of my business. But when you post in a public place such as this, we are all entitled to our own opinion. I think you got a nice car for less than some have paid that needed more than explained. Good luck, and I hope you guys work it out.

Elky.
 
In contract form "AS IS" means something but like you said verbally doesn't mean anything especially when it wasn't said. Your buddy should have had a real lawyer. I have about $14k in this car...andybody that thinks I got such a great deal is welcome to have it for what i have in it. The only difference is you are gonna know the truth about the car. I am fooling myself alright...thinking there are honest people out there.
 
Fraud charges? Are you serious? What a joke you are ............You were given the option, by me, to view the car both personally and by picture before you purchased, you declined. Remember? I described the car to the condition I thought it was in. 3 other people, 2 of which are on this board, have previously owned that car and all 3, including me, was proud to own it and have it.........you are a big loser for what you are doing with this whole deal. And Mike Dobbs, what do you know about any of this that you feel the need to be so close to this deal. You weren't involved with the purchase so stay the hell out.........Hey Shawn, it looks like you rubbed some white polish or something white in the one shot to get the pic to look like that, or is that even the car you bought from me?????? The car I sold you did not have those cracks in it like that.........nice try, where'd ya go to take those pics???? I think the people here are seeing what you are doing....crying like a baby. Grow up for christs sake. The car is a great car and I don't understand any of this to be honest with you. I think you are comparing it to your other GN you had and you are seeing a difference, I can't help that.

Also let's not forget about the fact that I even advertised the car as "Needs Work". To me that is pretty much saying as-is bud.........so go talk to all the damn lawyers you want. I did no wrong here at all.......
 
In contract form "AS IS" means something but like you said verbally doesn't mean anything especially when it wasn't said. Your buddy should have had a real lawyer. I have about $14k in this car...andybody that thinks I got such a great deal is welcome to have it for what i have in it. The only difference is you are gonna know the truth about the car. I am fooling myself alright...thinking there are honest people out there.

please do not affiliate me with somebody who I have never met in my life. I clearly was stating my opinion, which as an American I am entitled. Your dissatisfaction with your purchase was put up for the public's eye's, and you are obviously looking for others opinions. You have mine, and many others, which are all pretty equal. You should have seen the car in person, asked for up close pictures, and not made an impulsive purchase. I too have bought a car I was totally dissatisfied with, but I parted it out, and ate my losses. I'll give you 5k for the car, you pay shipping. I've seen the pictures. Thanks. Elky.
 
I should have posted the original ad....if just the stuff I posted was all that was wrong with it this would be a good price but there is a problem with the motor and couple that with a leaking girdle the engine needs to taken apart and reassembled to be done right. The motor problem was in the ad and discussed so no problem with that.
 
Well now that you had to bring my name up again after I said I was done Free board MR. PERFECT PAINT. OOPPPSSS !! NOW !!! You rubbed wax in it, isn't my car,sold as is, car needs work, I think it had PERFECT paint WAAH- WAAH -WAHH. Iv'e stated before for ALL the pic, guru's, PICS. don't show me S-IT. I believed Shawn from day one when he called me and was so upset about the paint condition on the car. And just for your information PAINT MAN this is Shawn's post and I just stuck up for a Good Freind of mine that believed he was getting a car with PERFECT paint. Until Shawn or Shane tell me to back out I'll post on here as I damn well like and if you don't like it don't read it. I will still be seeing this paint job in person myself this coming week but I think Shawn has done all that he needs to to show you know NOTHING about paint either. Yeah old Shawn probably ran around town and took pics. of another GN. H-LL there probanly isn't another GN around Dillon, MT. for 150 miles if that. I don't give a damn what everyone else has to say about it being a steal ,it's 22 years old (which the paint job isn't) you should of went and looked at it BLA-BLA BLA. A man's word is his word and if it was suppose to be PERFECT PAINT that's what he should of got. Plain and Simple Now go ahead and try some more BS to try and justify this.
 
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