Thanks for the explanation. It's all coming back. As to GN's I don't read much about using cams to change power. More talk about electronics and boost. It might be different for the ones running 8's and 9's. I was asking the question because Eric's instructions with the chip say that pressure drop when hose is re-attached should be 3-8 psi and I was wondering why it should vary so much. As I said, mine is 8 which closely matches idle vacuum in psi.No that is a function of the camshaft I and being naturally aspirated as they have to have different cam timing the old-school carbureted cars which I work on a bunch and have had drag cars that run on carburetion what happens when you put a big cam and a mouse or rat motor the air-fuel mixture gets shoved back up into the intake manifold at idle and lower rpm because the valves are hung open longer due to more duration and more cam overlap which increases the pressure in the manifold hence dropping intake manifold vacuum