GNX for sale....Cheap?

[Wet1]

What part of the vin says that it is a GNX vs. GN?


Also some food for thought...

I was looking through one of my restoration catalogs (Classic Industries) for parts for my 67 Camaro today and it made me think about this thread. I don't think there is a part on my Camaro that can't be bought through these catalogs. They sell sub-frames and even convertible bodies (minus doors ect.). The only thing that would be needed is the vin# from your car. The fact is you could completely build a "new" 67 Camaro from this catalog, slap a valid vin on it and NOBODY would question that it was a 67 Camaro... just a complete restoration.

I'm not saying I think this GNX/GN is or is not a real GNX (although I question how legal it was to pull that stunt), but the fact is body shops rebuild all sorts of heavily damaged vehicles using donor parts (including frames) and no one questions that it's the same car. In reallity a shop would have to use donor parts to rebuild that GNX. Would you say it would have been okay if they completely disassembled both cars and ultimately end up with just about the same thing?

 

[jsta6]

Nothing in the VIN says it is a "GNX". They were taken at random from the other GN's.

But the "7" in the VIN means it is a turbo car.

I was just curious if the VIN from the old totaled GNX and the ASC build sheet matched the VIN from the car they are trying to sell.

BTW, it is rumoured that someone on this board does have the list of VIN numbers for all 547 GNX's.

They were only 547 GNX's made. If a car does not have one of those VIN numbers, it is a GNX clone. Not a GNX.

 

[wagon]

Originally posted by wagon
The picture doesn't show the whole vin. The last digit is chopped off. Put a 5 at the end of what you can see, and then you can run it in carfax.

OK, now I'm confused. I don't even know what I was talking about. You can see the whole vin. I don't know. Maybe I needed sleep when I typed that first one. Please disregard all messages from me, past and future.

 

[jsta6]

Originally posted by wagon
OK, now I'm confused. I don't even know what I was talking about. You can see the whole vin. I don't know. Maybe I needed sleep when I typed that first one. Please disregard all messages from me, past and future.

Sleep?

Don't even get me started. I have a 6 1/2 year old, a 3 1/2 year old and 1 1/2 year old TWINS!

"I" need sleep...

PM me and tell me where I can see some pics of your wagon. (engine compartment).

 

[BAGN]

O.K. here is how it probably went down. . .

1 of 547 Totaled

Pull Complete drive train,Dash Plac,& of course VIN # and put on a regal frame.

Buy a aftermarket GNX rear suspension kit & Fender flares

And there you go, An original GNX.

Insted of being 1 of 547 - ITS 1 OF A KIND ! ! !

 

[Whut]

Originally posted by BAGN
O.K. here is how it probably went down. . .

1 of 547 Totaled

Pull Complete drive train,Dash Plac,& of course VIN # and put on a regal frame.

Buy a aftermarket GNX rear suspension kit & Fender flares

And there you go, An original GNX.

Insted of being 1 of 547 - ITS 1 OF A KIND ! ! !

Well, thats one way of looking at it. I still wouldnt pay that much for it, since I could build my own for a fraction of the cost using my own GN as a donor.

Also, mine wouldnt have a blood stained steering wheel either.

 

[TurboRegal84]

Originally posted by jsta6
Nothing in the VIN says it is a "GNX". They were taken at random from the other GN's.


BTW, it is rumoured that someone on this board does have the list of VIN numbers for all 547 GNX's.

The last few digits of the Vin number can be cross referenced to ASC Mclarens over all project build sheet in order to find their 'GNX Number'.
Joe Harrington has the list of Vin Numbers for all 547 GNXs.

 

[WakkoSS]

I wonder what Joe has to say about this topic.

 

[gnturboray]

If the donor car was an exact same optioned 87 GN as the original GN's used to make the GNX's,,,,then why wouldn't it be a GNX? If the guys at ASC would've done the repair, would that have made it an original?

 

[SinistrV6]

My $.04 (already put in my $.02)

I've been thinking about this some more and I still think GNX #298 "died" in the crash. No one except ASC/McLaren built/can build a GNX. I could see one being repaired if it was in a fender bender or allowed to rust , but once it's been totalled, that's it. It's over. One less of the 547 now exists.

I can buy wings and nose cones, but only Plymouth can build a Superbird. Same thing as this. Nice car, nice clone, but NOT GNX #298 (or any other number).

The fact that it can't be "replaced" is part of the mystique of owning such a rare car. It's also part of what makes it valuable.

 

[INTERCOOLED]

These people just need to face the reality that the car will never sell for the money they are asking. Too many questions, and to be honest, all of us Buick gurus would never let it happen.

I agree that the swapping of the VIN plate is completely illegal and the current owners/sellers of the vehicle should be warned.

The car, at best, should be listed:

For Sale:

"The Most Authentic GNX Clone Ever Made" This car originated as a stock Grand National but was converted to a GNX by use of authentic parts from a wrecked GNX...see photos.

Truth is......you would still sell the effing car. I would buy it and drive the thing all day long. BUT, as a True Buick Man, it would only be referred to as my "Perfect Clone."

 

[Turbo T/A 1543]

This car reminds me of a situation several years ago. A clown in Florida had an '86 Saleen Mustang for sale in Hemmings. I DROVE to Florida, cash in hand, to find an '86 GT with a few key pieces from a totalled Saleen attatched. When I arrived home I called Saleen to clue them in as to the fate of this particular car, which Liz told me they would scratch from the list as the real deal. After a couple of more months in Hemmings, the sellers conscience must have finally caught up with him, as he finally listed the car as a "rebodied 86 Saleen". At least the sellers of the GNX clone are being straightforward. Brutally so even. I don't know, but to me this one is like a human heart transplant patient...the heart is there, but what made it what it was, isn't anymore.