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The supra's motors/fuel systems are actualy real stout from the factory. If all our cars had a block strong enough, there would be alot more people running thoes dyno numbers.

Too bad at 975HP it probably only runs 11's :)

I'd love to have one....
 
That car is gorgeous. Big cash though.
I want one of those neat turbo heat covers he has!! Anyone know where to get one of those
I actually have no idea how they make huge HP. As stated, their blocks must be super strong. Usually they run 2 power addres also (N2O and Turbo) so that helps a bit.
 
Ditto...

That is an absolutely well done car. Immaculate inside and out. I would love to have one as a daily driver!! Dont see much touching it from any kind of rolling start!!
 
Thats impressive if you are a dyno racer. What does it mean in the real world? I dont know. I guess it means they have one helluva stout shortblock, thats about it:cool:
 
more valves (4 per cylinder) lot better breathing than a 2 valve, bigger ports and strong block
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BINGO! Remember also that an inline 6 crank, although a little longer, has much more cap support. If the SupraTT crowd would wise up and stop setting up their cars for max dyno HP and focus on getting it launched, these cars would be a terror on the strip. Just a simple change to a smaller turbine housing would have these cars launching better.

As long as they continue to ride the ego trip of who has the most HP or highest MPH, no need to fear them at the track.
 
actually if you guys check out
theres a company that makes a 32V head for the older 60s big blocks

they have a dyno run with before and after the heads for a 396CID, I dont remember what it did stock, but with the heads it put something like 750hp on the dyno
the heads are expensive too like 5-7K, but just imagine having a 4 cammed big block, holy ****
 
Originally posted by TireFryer
I am totally in awe :eek: with the HUGE HP numbers some of these Supras are able to push...like this one: :eek:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2419527537&category=6447

Is it a superior engine or are they just that good/efficient or what makes them this potent and deadly? :confused:

Thanx for any insight...
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Remember, they also run 5" exhaust tips, that makes all the difference. If us Buick guys would learn this we'd all be running 1000 HP… :cool:

The turbine insulator is to keep the heat down under the hood. Also heat is energy, you want it in the turbine where it's useful. Heat escaping the turbine housing and hanging around under the hood does no one any good.
 
5" Exhaust! hehe :D

I am well aware of many TR's running massive HP #'s and by no means am putting the TR down... I was just impressed by what the Supra is able to put out. If I had money to spare, would I have a Supra as such...I think I would ;) Along with a TR pushing @ least double the HP of the Supra! hehe :D
 
I just wish I had a nickel for every 800+ HP engine car there is that runs 12s.

A 5 sec blast on a dyno is a poor guage of true HP. IMO.
You can sneek by with alot of timing, and be using the AE fuel to keep the motor out of detonation for a high flash HP reading.

And there's alot more to drivibility then WOT. Having to spin the motor to 5,500 RPM to start making boost, sounds like a PITB to me.
 
Originally posted by TireFryer
5" Exhaust! hehe :D

I am well aware of many TR's running massive HP #'s and by no means am putting the TR down... I was just impressed by what the Supra is able to put out. If I had money to spare, would I have a Supra as such...I think I would ;) Along with a TR pushing @ least double the HP of the Supra! hehe :D
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No doubt that's a really good HP number. It's really pushing our 3.8 block to put out that much, mostly because of the structural integrity of the stock block. I don't personally know many people using 3.8 stage motors, they should also be able to put out 950HP but a lot safer than a 109 block. What is really impressive is that it's a 3.0 motor (assuming it’s not stroked). Mine on kill will put out 950 HP, that's 3.5HP per cubic inch. For a 3.8 liter motor (assuming not stroked) is 4.11 HP per cubic inch. For the Supra, that's 5.2 HP per cubic inch. That's really impressive in my opinion. If my stage motor had a 5.2 HP to cubic inch ratio I'd be putting out 1400 HP.

A couple of things come to mind. Spool up time would be a factor with such a small displacement motor. To put out that much HP they would have to have a fairly large turbo, I assume bigger than a T-76 since that's what I have and that thing at 29 PSI will turn my motor to 954 HP. Assuming a bigger turbo or twin smaller ones, a little 3.0 motor would probably take a while to spool. Someone also mentioned the suspension. I don't know much about the Supra but they don't seem to short very well given the MPH they seem to pull. Still very impressive HP numbers to me!
 
Originally posted by bruce
I just wish I had a nickel for every 800+ HP engine car there is that runs 12s.

A 5 sec blast on a dyno is a poor guage of true HP. IMO.
You can sneek by with alot of timing, and be using the AE fuel to keep the motor out of detonation for a high flash HP reading.

And there's alot more to drivibility then WOT. Having to spin the motor to 5,500 RPM to start making boost, sounds like a PITB to me.
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No doubt. Who knows, you could always have an air conditioner in front blowing air on the IC as well. Still, 950 is impressive with such a small motor even if it was running WW II vintage 120 octane marine fuel! :eek:
 
If I am spending $40K on a car for performance it is going to be a GNX. Or I would buy a TTA and throw some money into and it would be a monster on the track and I would still have money left over.
 
Originally posted by TurboDiverArt
No doubt that's a really good HP number. It's really pushing our 3.8 block to put out that much, mostly because of the structural integrity of the stock block. I don't personally know many people using 3.8 stage motors, they should also be able to put out 950HP but a lot safer than a 109 block. What is really impressive is that it's a 3.0 motor (assuming it’s not stroked). Mine on kill will put out 950 HP, that's 3.5HP per cubic inch. For a 3.8 liter motor (assuming not stroked) is 4.11 HP per cubic inch. For the Supra, that's 5.2 HP per cubic inch. That's really impressive in my opinion. If my stage motor had a 5.2 HP to cubic inch ratio I'd be putting out 1400 HP.

A couple of things come to mind. Spool up time would be a factor with such a small displacement motor. To put out that much HP they would have to have a fairly large turbo, I assume bigger than a T-76 since that's what I have and that thing at 29 PSI will turn my motor to 954 HP. Assuming a bigger turbo or twin smaller ones, a little 3.0 motor would probably take a while to spool. Someone also mentioned the suspension. I don't know much about the Supra but they don't seem to short very well given the MPH they seem to pull. Still very impressive HP numbers to me!
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If you read the ebay auction and the thread Lagtime posted it made 958HP to the rear wheels which is actually 1127 HP at the flywheel and it did this with a 74mm GTQ turbo at 27lbs of boost..... It's also important to keep in mind this is a 6-speed car so on the dyno it will make more HP than an auto car (6-speeds have less drivetrain loss)!
 
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