Hurst Quarterstick Help!!!!!!!!

[TMGN]

Got a brand new Hurst Quarterstick shifter for my 86 GN.Did the install exactly how the Buick News letter said and Hurst instructions.Its all mounted and everything is good.BUT, I cant get it adjusted right.No matter what I do it wont work.When I'm in drive it wont go into first.And vice versa.I personally think the linkage for the trans should be longer.The shifter has a longer range of motion than the trans linkage.If it goes into park good and you try for first the trans linkage is bottomed out by the time the shifter is in 2nd.Please help.Any suggestions will help.Thanks

 

[TMGN]

I meant to say when I can get it into park it wont go into first.And vice versa.Sorry.

 

[Geoff87]

Shifter cable is too short (the actual cable). If not, the cable is binding somewhere in the sheath.

I had the same problem with the stock shifter.

 

[hemi8]

Well, I have had my Quarter Stick in for about 2 years now and I have the same problem, will not go into 1st gear when all the other detents are adjusted so they will work, if I adjust it so first gear will work, I cannot get the thing into park. I posted the same post when I put mine in and most said to keep adjusting till it worked right.............I'd like to drive to Hurst headquarters and see if they could do it. If you ever figure it out please let us know.
Mike
86 GN

 

[TMGN]

I called Hurst's tech line.I explained how the range of motion wasn't the same between the shifter and the trans arm.They said they really dont know what it could be besides a wrong part somewhere.Basically no help.What I beleive it is if I lengthen the lever on the trans a bit and drill a new whole about a 1/4 of an inch lower it will allow me to get the full range.Any opinions or help would be appreciated.Thanks

 

[gnxtc2]

I have the same problem but figured it out. The problem is rod that connects to column. The rod hits the firewall.

Try this: Disconnect the rod and just leave the shifter cable control the trans. I bet it will work.

When you disconnect the rod, you loose the steering locking mechanism, reverse lights and neutral safety switch.

The choice is yours.

Billy T.
gnxtc2@aol.com

 

[MG8T7GN]

Originally posted by gnxtc2
I have the same problem but figured it out. The problem is rod that connects to column. The rod hits the firewall.

Try this: Disconnect the rod and just leave the shifter cable control the trans. I bet it will work.

When you disconnect the rod, you loose the steering locking mechanism, reverse lights and neutral safety switch.

The choice is yours.


Disconnecting the rod at the column should do the trick. Remove it completely from the car. I safety wired the column lever in the "up" postion, just as when the car is in park with the factory shifter. I used the stock lever that came with the Quarterstick. The column lock will still work since the mechanism works off of the igniton lock cylinder. For reverse lights, buy the reverse light switch for the QS and run 2 wires to the reverse light switch at the base of the steering column. Although with the column rod disconnected and the lever tied securely up, the neutral safety start will no longer work. It allows the linkage inside the column to move whenever in park or neutral and mechanically does not allow the linkage to move in the other gears.
HTH

Mark

 

[TMGN]

Thanks for all the replies.I did try without the column linkage first.It still was the same.I'm gonna try to lengthen the trans lever.any other opinions would be appreciated.

 

[DonnieShort]

Are you sure you mounted the cable bracket in the right holes on the tranny? The newsletter states to install the Hurst cable bracket one hole forward of where the stock bracket was located. I've had 3 different shifters in my car including the QuarterStick and never had a problem getting the cable set right. And I use the stock linkage for the column also.

 

[disco stu]

I am bumping this post with the exact same problem, column linkage disconnected. The tranny lever has to be too damn short. When adjusted in N or P, the tranny shifts into 1 when the Qstick is in 2nd detent. When adjusted in 1 tranny will not go into P.
Didi you ever find a fix TMGN?

 

[slim]

I had the same problem

I even called Hurst. They said it would work and that I just needed to keep trying

I did end up figuring it out.

You need to bend the bracket that Hurst supplies down to change the arc of the linkage movement. My also seemed impossible to get right. ..but bending the bracket was the way I fixed it. I bent the bracket down so that the new cable end was almost level with the trans pan. It's still a bit higher in the back, but still better than when I bolted it up.

Hurst recommended I start in First. Adjust from their. Get first gear to engage properly and then go through the gears. Their is a very small "window of opportunity" with this setup and it just requires patience to get right.

HTH

 

[slim]

Oh and BTW, it has nothing at all to do with the column linkage. There isn't an interference issue or anything of the sort. If you disconnect the column linkage you lose your reverse lights, neutral safety, etc...and isn't worth it.

Their is no reason to disconnect the column linkage.

 

[disco stu]

Hurst is full of crap. They can make a killer shifter but can screw up a little shift bracket. I welded a little metal to the bracket to move the hole forward 1" (allows cable to push down more instead of exerting too much pressure with the hole almost level to the fulcrum. More rotation on the mount slot would have fixed that.) and down about 3/32". The arc was just wrong. I know guys have gotten this to work no fuss no muss, but I do not know how. Now it is effortless, like the cable is not even connected. Other than that, the install was cake.

 

[slim]

Yup

down and forward a bit.

 

[turbodarryl]

Ive had my Qstick installed for about 1 yr and had no problems going into any gear with the factory rod for the netural safty still installed an working, if you still need help let me know.

 

[disco stu]

On the other hand, if you are like me and others, and have had a problem due to the linkage bracket being drilled flat wrong, I can supply a pic of the bracket with the corrected hole placement and with the column shift bracket welded on to retain the factory shift lock and reverse light switch function.

 

[slim]

Huh? I didn't have to weld or drill anything. Just a little tweak with some pliers...and it was perfect. Hurst maybe made a mistake by having their bracket stamped in China...but they didn't make it that far off from spec that you need to weld or drill. Just a little bend down and forward after it was bolted to the pan was all that was necessary.

 

[disco stu]

Hmm, not on mine. The arc was not right. With it adjusted where it would go into park it would not shift into 1st. 2nd on the shifter would put it into 1st on the tranny. It would not have mattered if I bent the bracket or not, if the bowden cable is adjusted it is adjusted, it would not matter what was going on with the bracket unless it is that far off. I corrected the arc and the detents are where they should be to coincide with the transmission. And I chose to cut off the column bracket off the original bracket and weld it onto the supplied bracket that came with the kit. Maybe that is where the problem is. Maybe the supplied bracket arc is different than the 1050059 bracket (should not be) that has the column shift bracket on it. That bracket was on backorder, but I installed The Q stick anyway. When that did not work, I did not want to wait for another bracket that might not work too, so I just worked with what I had.
If anyone else has had this same problem, and apparently so, I will be happy to try to help.

 

[slim]

Sorry you had such a hard time installing it stu...but you really don't need to cut, drill or weld anything to install the bracket properly.

It just requires alot of patience...and a slight tweak down and forward on the bracket.

I just did the install two weeks ago and can say that yes, it was frustrating, but yes, it will workwithout any major machining of parts.

You're right, the arc isn't right. But down and forward with a pair of pliers fixed that in no time.

 

[disco stu]

Originally posted by slim
but you really don't need to cut, drill or weld anything to install the bracket properly.


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Yeah, I did. It wasn't the angle or approach of the cable that was the problem. If it was I would have just made the problem. And if I was the impatient type I would have tried to finnagle the parts with pliers and such instead of correcting the arc and the almost horizontal angle to the bracket in 1'st. Bending may have fixed that but not the other problem I was having. I bumped an old post to try to help others in the future work with a bracket that is stamped plain wrong. It would not adjust, and now it will, so I did have to do something different than you obviously.