Injection led.

[Turbo6Smackdown]

Can't find my instructions, and forgot what red and green illumination meant. And in the "tuning the alky control kit" write up, it says "power injection bulb will increase its illumination..."
1. What power injection bulb? Where? Is that the one on the dash that came from the factory? and
2. Increase it's illumination? How? By colors? Candlepower?
3. Does anything to do with the acutal administering of meth hinge on this bulbs circuit, like some of the other electrical systems in this car does? I ask because I think mine is out.

 

[huntsg]

The bulb is the one that's installed in the dash with the Alky kit on the right side. The bulb goes behind the power injection "glass" in the verticals row on the right that came with the car but the Gn had no bulb in that position. The light gets brighter as you spray more Alky. It isn't needed for the system to work.

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

The bulb is the one that's installed in the dash with the Alky kit on the right side. The bulb goes behind the power injection "glass" in the verticals row on the right that came with the car but the Gn had no bulb in that position. The light gets brighter as you spray more Alky. It isn't needed for the system to work.

With the alky kit on the right side? Huh? The entire kit? Right side of what? What kind of bulb? Incandescent or LED? (i do realize that an led is a diode not a bulb per se, but for the sake of the conversation, i call it a bulb) I have 2-one's led, and one's incandescent) and does it really get brighter?

 

[huntsg]

The bulb is installed on the right side of the dash. It is in the stack of indicators along with the right turn signal. The other bulb goes on the left side of the dash and illuminates the low fuel level indicator when your meth is low. There is a third light with the kit that most people install near their boost gauge. It lights when Alky is spraying. The light near the boost gauge is led. For the other two there is a bulb and an led. Off the top of my head I don't recall which one went where (low fuel or power injection). It does get brighter but it's easier to see at night.

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

Gotcha. That's what I though. Just confirming. My "power injection" bulb's lead is busted off, I just want to know if I HAVE to go back in there to repair it if the actual alky kit functioning relies on it. I ask because I wanted to baseline this system, so I'm running with my wastegate rod all the way out, and timing back down to factory levels. No knock except the typcal shift knock which goes away. So then I decided to introduce alky to the system again, with everything still set to stock conditions. Then when I installed the new alky pump I was driving around town and my alky ran out fairly quick. I discovered a leak at the filter connection. (my mechanic never snugged it up) Put some pipe tape on it and snugged it up a little and it appears as if the leak's gone now. So then I turned up the timing back to alky style timing and started spraying alky. Now I get knock. So I leave the alky on, turn the timing BACK down to stock levels again, and now I'm STILL getting knock. How in the **** did I not get any with no alky and stock timing, introduce alky, turn timing back up, get knock, turn it back down while leaving the alky alone, and get knock again????? ALKY causes knock? lol.
When I take one step forward in this car, I will EVENTUALLY, WITHIN A WEEK, end up taking two steps backwards. Every single time...

 

[huntsg]

What happens if you turn Alky off? Is your boost at 15 lbs or so? You may be getting knock from being to rich.

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

I can never depress the throttle hard enough to get the injection light to turn green and spray alky without the KR shooting up steadily. I have to hit the throttle super slow like a normal person driving a normal car to keep the KR to zero. I never get the alky to start spraying before the kr starts

Buying some Xylene on the way home from work tomorrow and load my gas tank up. Then we'll see what's up for real.

 

[Boostian]

Call Julio. If you hold the test button and the light doesn't go from red to green you have another problem. Don't up your octane until you figure out the problem.

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

It's supposed to turn green while holding it down? Lemme check...

 

[Raeban]

Here is the manual if it helps. IIRC there is a section that talks about tuning but it should have the wiring diagrams so you can confirm the system is operating properly.

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

It does, when my gain knob is maxed. Which I hear is right. While driving around, I can't see it illuminate past 7 psi Going out for a night cruise soon to see.

 

[Razor]

When you hit 7 lbs of boost the clear colored LED by the boost gauge is supposed to illuminate red. Lets start here.
If the LED works with the TEST button, then it should under normal conditions turn on at 7 psi boost. If it doesn't, you have issues with the 3 bar map sensor.. hose not hooked up, no power to it, unplugged, etc etc etc.
Post back..

The "Power Injection" bulb is not needed. Just added to the kit as its wired across the pump wires. If the pump gets power, then it illuminates. A standard 194 bulb can be used if yours is broken.

 

[Royal-T-Ltd]

When you hit 7 lbs of boost the clear colored LED by the boost gauge is supposed to illuminate red. Lets start here.
If the LED works with the TEST button, then it should under normal conditions turn on at 7 psi boost. If it doesn't, you have issues with the 3 bar map sensor.. hose not hooked up, no power to it, unplugged, etc etc etc.
Post back..

The "Power Injection" bulb is not needed. Just added to the kit as its wired across the pump wires. If the pump gets power, then it illuminates. A standard 194 bulb can be used if yours is broken.

Just to clarify - where does the resistor wire in? Maybe it broke loose - or maybe solder joint somewhere else

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

Ok. Went for a night cruise this morning and it went green for one burst, but never again. I had not a lot, but sufficient alky. There's no way a few little half open throttle bursts burned up that much alky. Weird. I'll put more in and verify.

 

[Royal-T-Ltd]

Ok. Went for a night cruise this morning and it went green for one burst, but never again. I had not a lot, but sufficient alky. There's no way a few little half open throttle bursts burned up that much alky. Weird. I'll put more in and verify.

Possibly bleeding off pressure somewhere ... How old is the pump

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

Brand new rebuild by Julio.

Well see tomorrow morning when I take her out again with more meth. It's just weird that it was about an inch above the "low fuel" sender, and 4 super short part open throttle blasts later it was to the actual nozzle itself. At that exact rate, this bucket would last about 30 minutes on the local cruise strip... odd.

 

[Razor]

If your trouble shooting a pressure problem=red/green LED.. please fill the tank all the way up. Then test. If the tank is low.. drama will ensue.

Use the test button and look for any leaks. Sometimes you forget to simply tighten a hose or fitting.

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

Ok. Test done. On 8, the led does light up to green, but I have to hit the test button kinda hard. On 6 and while driving this morning, no green led while gettin' on it. It did come on one time yesterday morning though. Today I took her out again and I don't even get to mash the throttle; the knock slowly rises as my gas pedal rises. From about 10mph to 45 or so, the knock steadily increases as my speed does. I let out of it every time though. Went back home, and with a touch under a quarter tank, I tossed in a gallon of xylene. Drove around and nothing. I don't think I drove around enough though. I drove about 2 miles. Went home, added another gallon of xylene to the tune of about 103 octane and drove around a bit more. I couldn't get her to knock for shit. Soooo.... This means A. my alky kit all of a sudden doesn't work and it worked fine 2 seasons ago, and it sprays while idling but apparently not enough while mashing it. (my problems are never easy) and B. all that false knock people were telling me about wasn't false DAM.
I can see that there may be a problem with the alky kit but how in the hell do I diagnose knock like mine? I never took it past 8 psi, and it was all very gradual speed increase. No mashing it. How does my knock rise with boost like that? Even while driving I could see my wide band was in the 10's. How can my AFR be nice and rich and still getting knock like that? (that was without the xylene.)
This was on 19/17 timing and 17 psi with my turbo. (can't get it any lower) Isn't 19/17 stock? I hear that was still too much timing for todays gas. Should I go lower?

 

[Razor]

What is BL on your scan master while driving around and idle?

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

It jumps about every minute. It's usually in the low 120's. It's not consistent though.